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  • #16
    RamonSJC
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Aug 2012
    • 1532

    What hardware are you guys trying to run win 10?

    Just curious.

    I'm using an old laptop Lenovo T420 running Windows 10 ZERO problems.

    I don't use Edge, IE11 for work. Chrome for surfing.

    Granted I just use it for work VPN and at home for whatever the kids may need.
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    • #17
      NYT
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2011
      • 3811

      you guys with problems running an upgrade to 10 or straight 10?

      ive noticed upgrades to 10 have had a lot of issues, but all the workstations running a clean 10 install are perfect.

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      • #18
        ojisan
        Agent 86
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 11758

        Mine is a forced upgrade from 7 to 10.

        Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
        I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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        • #19
          GMG
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2008
          • 7974

          Originally posted by ojisan
          Mine is a forced upgrade from 7 to 10.
          Mine also.
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          • #20
            NYT
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2011
            • 3811

            i would wipe your system after backing up your data and run a clean version of win 10.

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            • #21
              the86d
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 9587

              Originally posted by RamonSJC
              What hardware are you guys trying to run win 10?

              Just curious.

              I'm using an old laptop Lenovo T420 running Windows 10 ZERO problems...
              Lenovo T400 6GB of RAM was tried, 64GB SSD. MINIMAL everything... just M$ Office, putty, drivers, and that's about it.

              Even Putty took too dang long to open (85% of the time) when trying 10 out as the native OS.

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              • #22
                Dragunov
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 1953

                Originally posted by RamonSJC
                What hardware are you guys trying to run win 10?

                Just curious.

                I'm using an old laptop Lenovo T420 running Windows 10 ZERO problems.

                I don't use Edge, IE11 for work. Chrome for surfing.

                Granted I just use it for work VPN and at home for whatever the kids may need.
                I have 3 Lenovo, T400 laptops (8gb/ram, 500gb/7200rpm HDD), that I've installed WinX on (recently).

                All ran really well with it, but after the treatment above, not only is it much faster, the only issue I've had is that Lenovo needs to update the video drivers, if you want to play a decent game.
                Last edited by Dragunov; 10-08-2016, 6:02 AM.

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                • #23
                  Dragunov
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1953

                  Originally posted by NYT
                  i would wipe your system after backing up your data and run a clean version of win 10.
                  If your update was forced, and you were good with your old O/S, I'd wipe, and reload the old O/S.



                  But that's just me .

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                  • #24
                    Dragunov
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1953

                    Originally posted by the86d
                    Lenovo T400 6GB of RAM was tried, 64GB SSD. MINIMAL everything... just M$ Office, putty, drivers, and that's about it.

                    Even Putty took too dang long to open (85% of the time) when trying 10 out as the native OS.
                    Have you used the Fast boot option? It works.

                    Cortana is a huge system hog. You can remove it completely, or just shut it off. Either way, good deal of speed difference.
                    Last edited by Dragunov; 10-07-2016, 2:30 PM.

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                    • #25
                      TriumphantApe
                      Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 101

                      Originally posted by ojisan
                      Mine is a forced upgrade from 7 to 10.
                      You weren't "forced" I still use Win7, I simply remove all the telemetry and upgrade nags so it can't upgrade it.

                      Unless you use a specific program that needs windows you should switch over to Linux, the platform is pretty user friendly now and you can dual boot it until you're sure.

                      It does require a tiny bit of technical know how, but nothing that couldn't be easily handled.

                      Windows 10 isn't really an operating system from my perspective, it's malware posing as an OS.

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                      • #26
                        Dragunov
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1953

                        Originally posted by NYT
                        you guys with problems running an upgrade to 10 or straight 10?

                        ive noticed upgrades to 10 have had a lot of issues, but all the workstations running a clean 10 install are perfect.
                        The problem with the upgrade is not giving your previous O/S a severe cleaning before upgrading. I'm using upgrades on all the WinX computers, and they run much better than the full installs. I did several computers, all Lenovo T400, with the exact, same, configuration (8gb/ram, 500gb/7200rpm HDD). All computers were in brand new, mint, condition, T400 computers. All had no HDD from the factory, and only 2gb/ram. I added the HDD, and ram.

                        T400 "Alpha", I just did the upgrade, without cleaning and prepping from Win7. Sort of like if you've gotten a "forced" upgrade. That turned out, not so good. After the experiment, I re-loaded Win7 back on it, and gave to my Nephew.

                        T400 "Beta" got the upgrade, AFTER a full blown cleanup (I pre-loaded various applications, and did some web surfing, to make it more realistic on "Alpha", and "Beta"), then after the upgrade, another thorough cleanup. Only thing left was the Windows.old file. This computer ran perfectly, and still does.This computer was sold a couple months ago. Customer loves it.

                        T400 "Charlie" got a fresh, unmolested, bare bones install of Windows 7, then an immediate upgrade, to WinX, and a good clean up. This computer ALSO runs superbly. Sold it to a friend yesterday.

                        I did a few other updates to a few other T400 computers, with various configurations, all turned out well.

                        I've had to fix at least eight computers just recently, that had factory, or fresh, full installs of WinX. All ran poorly, by my standards, until I fixed them.
                        Last edited by Dragunov; 10-08-2016, 6:01 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Dragunov
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1953

                          Originally posted by TriumphantApe
                          You weren't "forced" I still use Win7, I simply remove all the telemetry and upgrade nags so it can't upgrade it.

                          Unless you use a specific program that needs windows you should switch over to Linux, the platform is pretty user friendly now and you can dual boot it until you're sure.

                          It does require a tiny bit of technical know how, but nothing that couldn't be easily handled.

                          Windows 10 isn't really an operating system from my perspective, it's malware posing as an OS.
                          I agree with you here, however, I like Sims, Freespace 2, System Shock 2, and several other older games. NONE of which will work in "WINE", or work very poorly. "WINE", is a very poor gaming platform. If Linux Mint were as good with games as Windows, I'd be running Mint, full time.

                          Linux Mint is a pretty easy move, from Win7, BUT.... It's still Linux, and you have to think LINUX, not WINDOWS when using it, or you'll end up screwed up.

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                          • #28
                            TriumphantApe
                            Member
                            • Aug 2016
                            • 101

                            Originally posted by Dragunov
                            I agree with you here, however, I like Sims, Freespace 2, System Shock 2, and several other older games. NONE of which will work in "WINE", or work very poorly. "WINE", is a very poor gaming platform. If Linux Mint were as good with games as Windows, I'd be running Mint, full time.

                            Linux Mint is a pretty easy move, from Win7, BUT.... It's still Linux, and you have to think LINUX, not WINDOWS when using it, or you'll end up screwed up.
                            That's the catch =), if you're just browsing and doing email plus an office set up then Linux is a breeze, and yes Mint is nice, the newest version sets up easily and cleanly (and even had OpenVPN ready to go).

                            For anyone doing browsing, email, and needing the basic office tools Linux Mint is a good option, it just takes getting used to the interface.

                            I have to help my father all the time with his WinTin install (came on the computer) and from my perspective it is nightmarish, I don't run it on any of my hardware.

                            I shut his computer down and was sitting there for a few minutes and it turned its self back on.
                            So I thought "huh maybe I just put it to sleep" so I made sure I shut it down, it turned back on a few minutes later.
                            WTF?
                            It constantly tries to connect with everything else in the house via bluetooth and wifi.
                            I have to watch the access logs on my NAS because I get the feeling it will try to connect to that if it can. (I once put the password for NAS in there getting files for my father)
                            Every time I turn off telemetry, cortana and all the countless intrusive settings for him an update comes along and turns some of them back on.

                            Like I said, it's malware masquerading as an OS.

                            I use to game, then one day I took a look at my account for Battlefield 4 and saw "2235 hours played", I thought crap.... that's a college education.
                            I don't game any more, unless you count chess.
                            Last edited by TriumphantApe; 10-07-2016, 6:12 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Dragunov
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1953

                              Originally posted by TriumphantApe
                              That's the catch =), if you're just browsing and doing email plus an office set up then Linux is a breeze, and yes Mint is nice, the newest version sets up easily and cleanly (and even had OpenVPN ready to go).

                              For anyone doing browsing, email, and needing the basic office tools Linux Mint is a good option, it just takes getting used to the interface.

                              I have to help my father all the time with his WinTin install (came on the computer) and from my perspective it is nightmarish, I don't run it on any of my hardware.

                              I shut his computer down and was sitting there for a few minutes and it turned its self back on.
                              So I thought "huh maybe I just put it to sleep" so I made sure I shut it down, it turned back on a few minutes later.
                              WTF?
                              It constantly tries to connect with everything else in the house via bluetooth and wifi.
                              I have to watch the access logs on my NAS because I get the feeling it will try to connect to that if it can. (I once put the password for NAS in there getting files for my father)
                              Every time I turn off telemetry, cortana and all the countless intrusive settings for him an update comes along and turns some of them back on.

                              Like I said, it's malware masquerading as an OS.

                              I use to game, then one day I took a look at my account for Battlefield 4 and saw "2235 hours played", I thought crap.... that's a college education.
                              I don't game any more, unless you count chess.
                              Well..... I'm retired.... I can play games all I want!

                              My gaming machines are all Win7Pro. If I want to browse, and not in the mood for games, It's Linux Mint. My WinX machines were for resale only, and to learn how it functions. I have no interest on going to it full time on any of my home computers.
                              Last edited by Dragunov; 10-08-2016, 5:59 AM.

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