led fluorescent lighting

[edgerly779]

Anyone know about the efficiency and savings that come from swapping out t12 fluorescent to led fluorescents?. We a re swapping out f96 t12 vho to led t12 fluorescents. Also best place to buy..

[stilly]

Anyone know about the efficiency and savings that come from swapping out t12 fluorescent to led fluorescents?. We are swapping out f96 t12 vho to led t12 fluorescents. Also best place to buy..

FIFY

Home Depot or Lowes will sell them for around $35 I think.

Online though...

https://www.amazon.com/LEDwholesalers-Brightest-Fluorescent-Replacement-Approved/dp/B008XHVAA6

http://www.c2clights.com/srled-t8df-4ft-23w.html

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/174857/GLBLUX-10043.html

Double check your ballast type though.

Show pics before and after! :D

[Marauder2003]

All the LED T12 I have seen require removing the ballast from the circuit.

[edgerly779]

WE have fluorescent banana lights 4 f96 t12 vho bulbs per fixture 2 per pole on our car wash total fot the 2 carwashes is 100 bulbs

[Flyliner]

Look around here, and read the "Best Lighting Fixture Ever" sticky at the top.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=30

[stilly]

All the LED T12 I have seen require removing the ballast from the circuit.

Back when I was looking for a light fixture to add to my garage, I was looking at the LED and the fluorescents and some of the LED were plugins no ballast change needed.

[Trail Teams]

Anyone know about the efficiency and savings that come from swapping out t12 fluorescent to led fluorescents?. We a re swapping out f96 t12 vho to led t12 fluorescents. Also best place to buy..

As an electrical engineering consultant, this is what I do for a living. Yes, you will get noticeable saving by using LED because of lower wattage and the elimination of the ballast (if you're using a ballast bypass LED lamp upgrade).

But here in the great State of California, you will need to comply with Title 24 requirements. If you thought gun laws are confusing, then the California Energy Code will drive you insane.

First of all, the retrofit lighting fixtures you are using are classified as "low efficacy light sources". Again, depending on what type of building you have (residential or non-residential), you will need to comply with Title 24 Lighting Alterations and Alterations Mandatory Requirements.

From your description, it looks like you fall under the category of "Modifications in Place" retrofits, which exempts you from comply with T24 control requirements, IF you are modifying less than 40 fixtures. And it also depends on how you are wiring/installing the lamps (note: once you ADD a light, you will be required to comply with T24).

Confused yet?

Here's a good link explaining this (for residential applications):

https://www.lunera.com/the-simplest-solution-to-title-24-and-lighting-retrofits-in-california/

I have to deal with this every day. I don't want to sounds any alarms for you, since we only deal with this for "permitted" projects. I just think that this is something that everyone should be aware of. But we get a lot of angry calls from clients when they find out about these requirements. All we can say is that we don't make these crazy laws. And welcome to California.

[the86d]

there are multiple tpyes of connctions, some use both pins on one side, others (like i found out the hard way) use both ends of the "bulb", even after removing the ballist.

[edgerly779]

We are not adding any fixtures only retrofit of the f96 vho fluorescents to fixture/socket compatible led lamps Each lot has about 10 poles with 8 lamps per pole

[draftingmonkey]

All the LED T12 I have seen require removing the ballast from the circuit.

Actually I believe Feit makes a T12, among other sizes, that does NOT require the removal or bypassing of the ballast.

[jeager]

Heat is the enemy of bulb life

upsidedown is worse

[edgerly779]

I don't want to use the 1500 ma vho ballasts need f96 t12 led bulbs that work off 120 volts using existing fixtures and sockets.

[mindwip]

Home Depot led t8 fit in my t12 socket. Had to bypass the ballest.

Love them except they take 2 sec to turn on. Used to it now but man I man was it annoying at first.

Manufacturer said it was normall. I would not buy this model again. Hopefully they have fixed it now. I will replace them when they die...

[meaty-btz]

I was interested till I noted that they don't seem to offer a solution to those of us with 8ft fixtures.

Just had one of my 8footers cook off a transformer, my lil 2 year old could hear it even when I couldn't and she was scared into all kinds of tears. That little warning prevented a fire.

I'd love a ballast bypass single 8ft option. The "double connected bulb kits" make me suspicious. Plus, not cheap, also, not a good color temp.

[Wrangler John]

Then there's this:

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/122-A81/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/led-lightbulb-concerns/

Enjoy. Remember beeswax candles emit a pleasant aroma is somewhat dim light.