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  • Mr.Caketown
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2011
    • 7362

    Double check my build idea please

    I need a computer that can handle photoshop and various actions at the same time as well as about 60 tabs in firefox and a movie running on a second monitor.

    CPU- Intel i7-6770 ir i5-6600 (unlocked models)
    CPU Cooler - Corsair H100
    Motherboard - Asus Rog Maximus VIII Hero Alpha
    Memory - Corsair Vengeance 4 x8GB DDR4 3000mhz w/ corsair cooling fan
    Storage - Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB for OS and WD 7200 RPM 1 TB for rest
    Video - MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB
    Case - Corsair Graphite 780T in white
    Power - Corsair 750W (re used from current build)
    OS - Windows 7
    CD drive - generic blu ray/ CD drive

    The last item I need help with is a single DIN Card reader/fan controller. I like the idea of this



    but the reviews are so poor I dont know. Id like to see what comments you guys have or if Im adding parts that arent compatible.

    Thanks
    WTB:
    1)AR15 Aero Precision Skeletonized Lower
    2)S&W 686 6in barrel ...686 No dash through 686-4
    3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

  • #2
    Kwikvette
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3704

    I'd be curious as to how much photoshop you'll be doing to justify needing a ton of fans?

    Even a gaming computer won't require a fan controller as I've never used them in SLI and TRI-SLI rigs.

    As long as you have equal amounts of air coming in and out, clean cable management, and keep your dust filters clean you should be good to go.
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    • #3
      Mr.Caketown
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2011
      • 7362

      Originally posted by Kwikvette
      I'd be curious as to how much photoshop you'll be doing to justify needing a ton of fans?

      Even a gaming computer won't require a fan controller as I've never used them in SLI and TRI-SLI rigs.

      As long as you have equal amounts of air coming in and out, clean cable management, and keep your dust filters clean you should be good to go.
      its going to be in an area small area so I want as much as flow as possible. Its going to have two up front , two up top , one on the bottom and one pulling air out the back. Nothing out of the normal there
      WTB:
      1)AR15 Aero Precision Skeletonized Lower
      2)S&W 686 6in barrel ...686 No dash through 686-4
      3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

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      • #4
        OutlawStar
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 455

        Most of the fan controllers out there aren't worth their $20 price tag. They're made super cheap because of how simple they are. But the ASUS ROG boards can control the fans on board through the AI suite.

        I have a similar build to yours, but I don't have a CD drive because nothing I buy anymore has a CD. Theres a lot of people that buy card readers and expansion ports because they want the functionality if needed, but never use them. Just be sure you actually need the reader or optical drive. If you need an optical, look for "OEM" models. Its just the drive without retail packaging or other software.

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        • #5
          afteractionreport
          CGSSA Leader
          • Jun 2013
          • 2854

          Id switch out the heatsink to a Noctua one...they are the best in the business...



          (i prefer a non water cooled HS)

          I have the NH-C14s

          Small and low profile model...



          They have other bigger mosters if this model is too small for you...

          Also wipe the crappy thermal grease that your cpu comes with and use this.



          (ps: i spray painted the fan black after a few months...looks cooler)

          Edit: heres a benchmark test from last year pitting a few water cooled systems with noctuas top end model NHD15

          We're putting the Noctua NH-D15 to the test against five high end closed loop coolers. The NH-D15 will be tested against the Corsair H100i GTX, NZXT Kraken X61, Cooler Master Nepton 240M, DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm Captain 240 and Thermal Take Water 3.0 Extreme.
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          • #6
            afteractionreport
            CGSSA Leader
            • Jun 2013
            • 2854

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            Last edited by afteractionreport; 06-27-2016, 10:21 PM.
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            • #7
              afteractionreport
              CGSSA Leader
              • Jun 2013
              • 2854

              Originally posted by Mr.Caketown

              The last item I need help with is a single DIN Card reader/fan controller. I like the idea of this



              but the reviews are so poor I dont know. Id like to see what comments you guys have or if Im adding parts that arent compatible.

              Thanks
              If it was me i wouldnt buy this. They really are useless imho... Save your money....
              Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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              • #8
                stilly
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2009
                • 10685

                Originally posted by Mr.Caketown
                I need a computer that can handle photoshop and various actions at the same time as well as about 60 tabs in firefox and a movie running on a second monitor.

                CPU- Intel i7-6770 ir i5-6600 (unlocked models)
                CPU Cooler - Corsair H100
                Motherboard - Asus Rog Maximus VIII Hero Alpha
                Memory - Corsair Vengeance 4 x8GB DDR4 3000mhz w/ corsair cooling fan
                Storage - Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB for OS and WD 7200 RPM 1 TB for rest
                Video - MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB
                Case - Corsair Graphite 780T in white
                Power - Corsair 750W (re used from current build)
                OS - Windows 7
                CD drive - generic blu ray/ CD drive

                The last item I need help with is a single DIN Card reader/fan controller. I like the idea of this



                but the reviews are so poor I dont know. Id like to see what comments you guys have or if Im adding parts that arent compatible.

                Thanks


                Games need airflow. Photoshop not so much. Photoshop and cad programs prefer RAM. Last time I saw it, the GTX-970 was a gaming card. Not ideal for photoshop. I would look for a quadro especially if I was planning on using 10-bit color with the 10 bit monitors etc. That is where the quadros can shine.

                Unlocked models of intels are K models. I do not know of any such 6770K and the 6770HQ is a laptop cpu.

                Just get an i7-6700k and be happy and future proof for a few years.

                Originally posted by Mr.Caketown
                its going to be in an area small area so I want as much as flow as possible. Its going to have two up front , two up top , one on the bottom and one pulling air out the back. Nothing out of the normal there.
                Yer kidding right? Nothing out of the normal? Yeah except 6 fans... You only need a fan up front and a fan in the back, MAYBE one on top but nine times out of ten the PSU uses a fan to help draw air out.

                They better at LEAST be 120mm because I once made a comp with 5 fans and that thing was LOUDER than a freshly kicked chihuahua. Buy yourself some hearing protection too.

                You do not need a fan controller. Those are cutesy little things they sell to the chinese kids that like to put light up things in their comps. Real computers only have light up fans because the black ones are out of stock...

                just my .02
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                • #9
                  C.G.
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8232

                  I would go for a larger SSD, it will be faster. My rig has a 1 TB SSD and 2 TB data hard drive. If you do intensive Photoshop I would also max out on the memory.
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                  • #10
                    Mr.Caketown
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 7362

                    Originally posted by stilly



                    Just get an i7-6700k and be happy and future proof for a few years.



                    Yer kidding right? Nothing out of the normal? Yeah except 6 fans... You only need a fan up front and a fan in the back, MAYBE one on top but nine times out of ten the PSU uses a fan to help draw air out.

                    They better at LEAST be 120mm because I once made a comp with 5 fans and that thing was LOUDER than a freshly kicked chihuahua. Buy yourself some hearing protection too.

                    You do not need a fan controller. Those are cutesy little things they sell to the chinese kids that like to put light up things in their comps. Real computers only have light up fans because the black ones are out of stock...

                    just my .02
                    This is why I was asking these questions here , i just picked a vid card under budget. I just assumed if it can handle games it can handle photoshop. The i7-6770k was the one I was looking at , i forgot to add the K to the models.

                    As far as the fans go Ill have the h100 on the top and it comes with 2 140mm upfront and 1 140mm in the rear. Im debating on putting the Corsair Sp120 Low Noise on the bottom. Will a fan or two be necessary if the comp is going on carpet?

                    Excuse my questions , this is my second build ever .... i usually buy store stuff. If you have any other recommendations id like to hear them. I do more photoshop/illustrator work but occasional place Starcraft 2 , Warhammer 40K and Fallout on my current computer
                    WTB:
                    1)AR15 Aero Precision Skeletonized Lower
                    2)S&W 686 6in barrel ...686 No dash through 686-4
                    3) Saltworks M5 upper/lower set

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                    • #11
                      Kwikvette
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 3704

                      Put something solid between the PC and the carpet; it's open below to allow the PSU to pull in air which means you'll pull dust/dirt in as well.
                      Originally posted by longrange1
                      my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                      Originally posted by XDJYo
                      Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                      • #12
                        afteractionreport
                        CGSSA Leader
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2854

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                        • #13
                          Mute
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 8566

                          If you're looking at primarily photoshop and a bunch of web browser tabs, I suggest plenty of RAM and the best CPU you can afford. Truthfully, even though the 6770k is more than sufficient, for video/photo editing, the 6 core cpus (like the 5820k) will probably serve you better.

                          Also, I'd go at least 500 GB on the SSD. If you are going to install any programs besides your OS on the SSD, you're going to find yourself wishing you had gone bigger pretty soon.
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                          • #14
                            2shotjoe
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 26571

                            use this to build, it tells you what works with what and chooses the cheapest prices online.



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                            • #15
                              OutlawStar
                              Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 455

                              The gaming cards and regular consumer processors will do photoshop without a problem, it'll just be marginally slower; when I was editing video it took my old computer a couple hours to render a video, whereas the professional grade stuff would get the same video done in under an hour. The difference is I could drink a beer and do other things, and professionals are on the clock. The professional grade stuff like the Quaddro and Fire cards are ludicrously expensive and are pretty much purpose built for photoshop, CAD, and video processing. They perform dismally with games; so bad you won't be able to play.. They are simply a different architecture.

                              32gb of RAM is maxing out the DIMMS unless you can afford the 16gb DIMMS. But performance per dollar drops off exponentially; the 3000mhz stuff is overclocked and usually over volted beyond the intel 1.5v spec. These will require you to enter the BIOS and setup to their stated speed yourself.

                              Is this for business use or weekend hobby photo editing? I'm assuming weekend hobby given the 250gb SSD and 1tb storage. Both of these drives will be just fine for an above average computer user; but most photo and video editors I know have many terabytes of storage. You might want to look into the 3-4tb "green" or "blue" model drives. They are generally cheaper due to slightly lower performance, but 4tb models are under $100, and offer a lifetime size of storage. Maybe consider two for RAID backup if one of them dies.

                              What kind of tabs are you keeping open at all times, why 60+? If its simple, well-built websites (like calguns) you could have hundreds open and that hardware wouldn't flinch. If they're pooly built, contain flash, and other garbage, it'll probably crash.

                              Someones already said, put the case on a small piece of wood or something firm, sitting on carpet will negate the ability of the fans. Is the computer on the floor in a closet or something? You said it was a small enclosed space, but to have a dozen fans moving hot air around a small enclosed space won't keep your temps down. Can you elaborate on the physical location of the computer?

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