Window (face palm here) want a mac I think

[Dano3467]

Little help tech's of CGn's

So every time I get update for windows 7 something is just gone, or not working, (damn windows)

So now thinking a Mac may serve me better, maybe the tech crowed can chime in on this.

Is this a worth while adventure

Will there be big issues moving data to the mac from Windows 7 & 2.0 backup HD ?

And will Apple try to jack my music files, as their from CD's, I only say this because of my nephew who for some reason lost everything to apple when he let them in, (games, music, from yrs of collecting it)

Anyway, I'm so tired of having to find fixes for windows after these update events, some stuff still not working, like still can't print from internet page, an now documents, Bill gate's you suck !

Computers are for making life easier, not the other way around.

Now I have a lot of pictures & even more music, so needing 600+ HD, an spoiled with a 23" monitor so wanting something like that, you probably guessed a desk top, as that's what I need.

Your recommendations/advice would be real nice.

What say you guy's/gals will I have less issues with Mac, or just stick with Bill, & these crappy updates that only seem to make more work ?

Idk about windows 10, I've hear is now come with Gumbit spywear, & I see no need for them in my PC.

PC desk top now is HP forgot model but has 650 HD, & 6GB ram 23" monitor.

It's real nice, if not for all the crap I put up with from windows, seems weekly.

[sd_shooter]

Go for it! I was a mac hater for years but have switched and the tech support time has gone down to zero. Well worth it.

[DaveInOroValley]

Having been on both sides of the tech support world for both I can honestly say that for me OSX is just an easier and more friendly environment to deal with. We've had two portables in our house both now over 8 years old (one of which I am using now), and literally zero problems with the exception of a battery replacement.

You shouldn't have any issues transferring data from one to the other and to make you feel better about the cost they have been many articles that compare actual feature to feature on various hardware and they have shown that in some cases an Apple system can be even less expensive than a comparable PC counterpart.

I have one laptop that has been on 24/7 for the last 6 years and other than running regular updates or other software installs that require a restart it hasn't been shut down. While I did work for Apple for 12 years I can honestly say that the hardware quality and software integration is really the key to the stability.

[Albs]

As they all say... once you go Mac you'll never go back...

[Iknownot]

As long as there's nothing wrong with your PC hardware - wise, why bit just do a clean install of Windows?
I've found its a good idea to do no matter what to keep a PC running well after 2 or 3 years.

If you have a valid copy of win 7, you can even update to 10 now. You can d/l the win10 installer from MS directly and make a boot USB stick for a clean install. (Just make sure your PC is authorized first for the upgrade).

Btw, A lot of the problems from windows can come from all the bloatware that is installed by your PC manufacture. HP puts a lot of stuff on the computer along with windows. You may find all your problems go away if you do a complete clean install of windows only on your PC. Do not restore from the partition HP put on your computer. Do a complete install off of just a Windows boot disk from Microsoft. Then you will only have windows on your computer and nothing else gumming things up.

If you want to spend the money, Mac is definitely nice. Transitioning between the two is not hard.

[Dano3467]

I have original Disks in safe, & could do that, but I understand that to play catch with Widows updates could take some serious time, & I would still get those crappy updates later that seem to make more trouble than the help their supposed to give.

We won't even talk about security $$ & tech help $$ when things go south, which seems lately has been more than I should have to put up with.

Bill Gates, thanks a lot

[Iknownot]

Yes, it's a time investment. But the updates are basically automatic after the initial install. You just let the machine do its thing over and over with you restarting as requested. So you could do it in an evening or two if you had something else you were planning to do like watch tv or movies.

Macs generally work well, but they can also have issues. They are easier to fix though. It is for sure less time intensive if things go sideways.

You do pay extra for the hardware. But if it is worth it to you go for it. I personally think the Mac Mini is the best value in the Mac line up. But I don't know if you want a desktop or laptop.

[scbauer]

Go for it! I was a mac hater for years but have switched and the tech support time has gone down to zero. Well worth it.

Me too. I was ALWAYS a PC guy, but was forced to start using a Mac 4 years ago for work. My PC now sits in my garage unused and my wife and I each have a MacBook.

There have been zero (0) problems in 3+ years. Zero.

Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.

-Scott

[uxo2]

I am a Mac convert as of 4 months ago.

Get it..

[Epaphroditus]

Linux

[GovGeek]

Bill Gates, thanks a lot

You'll like the Mac, it's what I buy my wife and daughter and I'm a Windows IT professional. That's no slide against Microsoft BTW, they're incredibly awesome, especially for the enterprise and the cost conscience consumer. Apple is expensive and they're arguably more "totalitarian" about their ecosystem, much more than a PC.

The big difference is that Apple is a hardware and software company. When you buy their computers/hardware, it's all from under the same roof. The entire product is single-stack and designed to work very well with their proprietary stuff, and it does. With Windows, it's designed to work on damn near anything you choose to install it onto. In fact you can design some hardware configuration, put it together and install Windows and it will do it's best to accommodate your poor decisions. BTW, My primary computer at home is a laptop from 2006 running Windows10, and doing it well.

Now I have a bone to pick with your continual arbitrary blaming... You do know that Bill (a philanthropist spending his billions across the globe saving humanity) doesn't actually run the company, right? Do you blame Lee Iacocca if your Ford doesn't start on cold days, too? In short order you'll be blaming Steve Jobs because your new Apple will be getting just as many security updates as well. Yes, even the almighty OSX get's patches just as often now.

If you keep this up, I think you should pack up and return any computational device and go back to an abacus and a paper based day-runner. Ha!

As a seasoned IT dude, I see this attitude quite often in this space. I do sympathize with your frustration. Sure, the platforms are not bulletproof, but it almost always boils down to the user and what they've done to their own computer. Majority of problems derive from trying to take perceived control of "this is my computer, I'm turning this off" by installing random 3rd party software. From a technical perspective, these OSes are stable out of the box, and vast arrays of test labs prove this stability with every consecutive patch in the future... right up until a user begins modifying their system to the brink of failure. Apple is admittedly better at obfuscating a user's ability to molest the OS, whereas Microsoft exposes it quite easily. Do-it-yourselfers often take misguided advice and begin installing random software or making registry tweaks like they're hopping up their AK, often to the computer's own detriment.

PS, I bet you run your computer as Administrator, don't you?

My advice: Perform an in-place upgrade from Windows7 to Windows 10. It's still considered a "clean-install" but your files are shifted around (The OS creates hard links so files don't disappear) so your data is not lost. No need to create USB media as someone suggested. Also, you'll get the benefit of rolling back should you absolutely hate Windows10. Windows7 will be supported up until 2020 anyway, so there's plenty of life left in it. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...ows-10-upgrade

Lastly, patches are critical. Hackers love unpatched systems. It's like securing your home with a screen door. Good luck!

[GovGeek]

Linux

I believe he actually wants to use the computer.

[OutlawStar]

I'll echo GovGeek's wise words. Most of the people in my office that say they hate windows computers at work and love their mac at home sooooo much more. What they fail to realize are the office computers have ridiculous IT settings and often times poorly written sofware locking down the computer to prevent the average idiot err user to not completely ruin the workstation.

Any time I ask what their at-home mac is used for, they use facebook, look at photos, lookup cooking recipes, and watch youtube. A $2000 mac is like buying a 3/4 ton flatbed to haul a bag of potatos. Of course it'll appear so much better.

As far as Dano's comments,

So every time I get update for windows 7 something is just gone, or not working

Can you elaborate? I've NEVER had a windows update remove a file, and rather rarely does an entire application break because of an update. (usually something prone to being crap like flash) Are some of your files "missing"? Typically what happens is people save them somewhere and forget where they are; usually when they have 300 things on their desktop and suddenly cannot find it among the sea of icons.

[Dano3467]

I have little on the desktop page, no FB social media consists of CGN e-mails

HP DT is for surfing for info, pictures, music lot & lots of music, an occasional youtubes vids & documents/letters.

Don't download much of anything to change system, did an Adobe down load once, Holy **** last time I do that.

Was having issues with printing pages from web, then after an update yesterday, I can't print from documents now, unless dragging after highlighting, but today that also had issues as I couldn't drag the headed on the page, got the info but couldn't get that header. (this was my own work in word/doc)

It just seems that after one of these windows DL I immediately get some new issues that I'd not had before, so this leads me to that downloads are causing these problems.

Some (issues) are not to bad to fix (like 1/2hr- 1.5hr) , but many just blow, an some of those still remain, just little things that sometimes you can work around, but now there just, **** problems.

Now I be the first to admit I'm no PC guru, far from it, so I try to keep clear of making problems for myself.

I do have Norton though, & know, it's not all good with them.

[MaHoTex]

I have switched all of my PCs to Windows 10 and have had zero problems. I run with Start 10 to get the older Windows 7 interface. not sure why you are having so many problems with Windows 7. Just go to 10, install Start 10 and give it a try.

From what I read Windows 7 support ended last year, so I do not know why you would be seeing updates. Just go Win 10, try it. If it doesn't suit you then figure it out from there.