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  • #16
    gogohopper
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 4733

    4k and UHD aren't the same.

    Originally posted by Webologist
    I am in a sympathy-free zone as well. A leftist brown shirt reaping what he sowed after profiting from it is sweet justice indeed.

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    • #17
      billvau
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 864

      Originally posted by Phil3
      Our old 61" Samsung DLP TV set is dying. I need to replace. Intend to go with 65", with a viewing distance of 10-1/2 feet. Will 4k content, the little that there is, be any better looking than 1080 at that viewing distance? If not, then I will just get a cheaper 1080p set, unless 4k is going to have a lot more content fairly soon. I am looking at the Samsung KS8000.

      Phil
      Don't know Samsung Models. But, 4K "can" be worth it if the TV or your AVR has 4K upscaling (upconverting). Then, everything improves as much as they possibly can with current technology. Other thing is 4K TVs get all of their latest other technologies.

      But, don't buy for 4K content. Very little available relative to everything else. I treat my TV as a "monitor" that has to be balanced by the AVR, DVD, streaming (ROKU for me) and speakers. You can have a 4K TV without an AVR or speakers to match and you'll get no improvement from your previous TV!
      Pastor Bill

      "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason- I do not accept the authority of popes and councils [i.e. any man]- my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Martin Luther

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      • #18
        NYT
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2011
        • 3811

        better chart:

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        • #19
          Germz
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Apr 2013
          • 4691

          4k is absolutely beautiful.

          I bought my 4K 55" smart tv for $600 on black Friday.
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          • #20
            ExtremeX
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 7160

            I don't have a 4k TV set yet, but I do have a 4k computer monitor... its essentially like having 4 x 1080p screens worth pixel assuming you don't scale anything. I wish more of the TVs came with display port connectivity since it seems like it has way more application in the PC world.

            With larger TV sets, at least the ones coming out of as of late, you start to realize how little resolution 1080p really is. Assuming prices are within reason I would personally opt for a 4k TV even if I played mainly 1080p content because some of the upscaled images actually look pretty good, at least better than a 1080p set, but a far cry from a demo disc with 4k content.
            ExtremeX

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            • #21
              joefrank64k
              @ the Dark End of the Bar
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2009
              • 10124

              FWIW: The Samsung 4K I got is listed as Super-UHD (S-UHD).

              Dynamic HDR, 120hz refresh at all resolutions (some "120hz" sets are only 120hz at 1080p and only 60hz at 4K), and a few other doodads.
              You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
              If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
              Come on...what harm??

              joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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              • #22
                holt7153
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2010
                • 1877

                Originally posted by castgold
                What kind of variance have you seen from manufacturers with respect to reporting specifications?
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                • #23
                  NYT
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 3811

                  Originally posted by joefrank64k
                  FWIW: The Samsung 4K I got is listed as Super-UHD (S-UHD).

                  Dynamic HDR, 120hz refresh at all resolutions (some "120hz" sets are only 120hz at 1080p and only 60hz at 4K), and a few other doodads.
                  which one? in feb, i got my dad this one at costco:



                  it was open box and on rebate so i saved quite a bit.

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                  • #24
                    joefrank64k
                    @ the Dark End of the Bar
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 10124

                    4K Worth It?

                    Originally posted by NYT
                    which one? in feb, i got my dad this one at costco:



                    it was open box and on rebate so i saved quite a bit.
                    This one: http://www.costco.com/Samsung-55%22-...100225062.html

                    They were running a $500 instant rebate at the time. Great deal on a great tv.

                    FWIW, IIRC, for Samsung TVs, the tiers are: 6 series/7 series/8 series for good/better/best. For ex: My model number is "JS700" so it's a 7 series.

                    This was the 6 Series I was considering: http://www.costco.com/.product.100171415.html
                    Last edited by joefrank64k; 05-03-2016, 9:36 PM.
                    You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                    If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                    Come on...what harm??

                    joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                    • #25
                      sholling
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 10360

                      If you are going to go 4K then I'd with a newer HDR (High Dynamic Range) set. Content is limited for now but I think it's the next big step in quality.

                      "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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                      • #26
                        rkt88edmo
                        Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 10062

                        If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
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                        • #27
                          joefrank64k
                          @ the Dark End of the Bar
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10124



                          I agree...some scenes look comically over-saturated with color. Hopefully it's just a learning curve for the content producers, but right now I'm good with just regular 4K.
                          You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                          If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                          Come on...what harm??

                          joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                          • #28
                            AceGirlsHusband
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2651

                            We have a small house. Acegirl and I are planning to run a 4K of 55" at about 6-7 feet of viewing distance in our little living room. We're feeding it Comcast X1 and I think it'll be worth it. I do know that my 5K Apple monitor makes a whopping difference in photo work when I'm using Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop.

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                            • #29
                              sholling
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 10360

                              What you have seen in the stores and in demos is "vivid mode" or "demo mode", which is intended to show off colors. Once you get it home you can switch to movie mode or custom mode and have it calibrated.
                              "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

                              Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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                              • #30
                                sholling
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 10360

                                Originally posted by AceGirlsHusband
                                We have a small house. Acegirl and I are planning to run a 4K of 55" at about 6-7 feet of viewing distance in our little living room. We're feeding it Comcast X1 and I think it'll be worth it. I do know that my 5K Apple monitor makes a whopping difference in photo work when I'm using Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop.
                                I agree. I have a 12.5" laptop with 4K video and while the resolution is more than I need with a 12.5" display, the display's 100% perfect Adobe RGB score makes for an amazing image.

                                For those that were not aware, almost all LED TVs have always had multiple color saturation/brightness presets. It's just expected that once you get it home that you'll switch from showroom demo mode to a less POP mode, or calibrate the TV, or even have it calibrated by a pro. The are plenty of DIY resources including Disney's World Of Wonder. A theoretically perfectly calibrated TV is almost too bland.

                                "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

                                Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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