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  • #16
    fishmonger
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 319

    Originally posted by Pally
    I put a lot of heavy daily business use on my machines and the "store bought" units just don't have the stamina anymore. And, apparently neither do the new ones that are sold today.

    I think I'll have to spend more $ and go the "commercial grade" route as Zorba suggested.
    very heavy power user? have you at least thought about switching to a ssd for the hard drive? last time you formatted the hard drive and started fresh? the way things are going now days there as been little real gain. most people couldnt tell a new computer vs one 3-4 years old. many times there are simple upgrades or options that can be done to make the computer to run better.

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    • #17
      nothinghere2c
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 2259

      Originally posted by Pally
      I've been looking to replace one my HP Desktops (i7 3.4Ghz, 16 GB ram, 1 TB hd, Win 8.0). I bought it a few years back at Costco. I hate Win 8, very happy with Win 7, but I'm not sure if I should upgrade to Win 10...
      those base specs are still very decent. swap the HD with a SSD, get a better video card (and PSU if needed), install Win10 using your Windows8 key and you should be able to use that for another 3 years easy.

      what exactly is "heavy business apps" that you cant do on an i7 3.4 with 16gb ram?

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      • #18
        Mute
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 8580

        Originally posted by Pally
        Looks like a great gaming machine. I happened to briefly view these on the Costco website. Pricey.
        A lot cheaper if you get it directly from them. They're usually offering discounts and free upgrade to higher tier hardware.
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        • #19
          baranski
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 3852

          Originally posted by Pally
          I wish I had the time! I would attempt it.


          I had one built in 2002 by a friend, that thing still works fine, yeah I upgraded its OS but best thing I ever did. Store bought just does not last.
          Originally posted by ACfixer
          there's plenty of sissies and snitches roaming the hallways here.

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          • #20
            castgold
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 1531

            I get everything from MicroCenter in Tustin. I've built 4 for working/gaming/media, purchased 3 Dell all-in-ones for my office from them. I cannot find any reason to buy from Costco, Fry's, or Newegg when I live so close to MCenter.

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            • #21
              stilly
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by Pally
              I wish I had the time! I would attempt it.
              [YAWN]
              Weak excuse...



              Microcenter usually has a few good items on their showroom floor. It is my FAVORITE electronics place to browse in.

              Me, I build my own stuff. Whatever I need I build it and put only what I want on it.
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              • #22
                freespool
                Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 362

                You don't give much detail of exactly what's gone wrong, or even what you've got - there are what, 6 generations of i7 now. Any of the recent several are plenty capable. Maybe you're just ready for something new, fine.

                If it's simply current performance of a once great computer, a lot of dissatisfaction with aging PCs derives from the OS getting "senile" and can be fixed by simply re-installing the OS. Also, if you have Win8 Pro, you can downgrade to Win7Pro in legit fashion, with Microsoft's blessing.

                I agree the user interface in Win 8 sucks, but otherwise it's supposed to be a decent performer. You can bury a lot of the hassle of the new interface by installing Windows Classic Shell, and restoring the familiar look and operation of Windows 7.

                It could be a repairable hardware issue as well. More detail would help if you'd be just as happy to have the old performer back.

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                • #23
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19736

                  Not to totally thread jack, but I thought the recent upgrades with Windows 7 added the same Microsoft spyware as is part of win 10?
                  Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                  Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                  Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                  Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                  (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                  • #24
                    freespool
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 362

                    Originally posted by hermosabeach
                    Not to totally thread jack, but I thought the recent upgrades with Windows 7 added the same Microsoft spyware as is part of win 10?
                    You can google up a list of the ones to avoid or uninstall, for Win8 too.

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                    • #25
                      Pally
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 874

                      Originally posted by kpkube
                      Buy a Mac !!!
                      uhh...nope!
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                      • #26
                        NYT
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3811

                        Originally posted by Pally
                        I've been looking to replace one my HP Desktops (i7 3.4Ghz, 16 GB ram, 1 TB hd, Win 8.0). I bought it a few years back at Costco. I hate Win 8, very happy with Win 7, but I'm not sure if I should upgrade to Win 10...

                        One of the major problems is that is seems like recently, the machines I've looked at (Costco, Sam's, Amazon, Best Buy, etc..) have really bad ratings.
                        I am trying to stay in the $800 range for the machine only.

                        I recently purchased a Win 7 HP laptop at Costco and had to return it. Junk!
                        I purchased another Win 7 HP laptop direct, incredibly slow, should have returned it!

                        Where do you tech guys/gals purchase reliable and affordable machines?
                        Is it even possible to get a reliable Win 7 machine anymore?
                        what are you going to use the machine for? what kind of mileage are you thinking youll get?

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                        • #27
                          Pally
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 874

                          Originally posted by NYT
                          what are you going to use the machine for? what kind of mileage are you thinking youll get?
                          I use multiple machines for small business use. I require minimum 4-5 years life expectancy.

                          Over the years, I've had good luck with HP. I would like to remain with them.
                          I'm thinking that I'll switch to their commercial machines as suggested above. It just costs more.

                          It seems as though the new and upcoming software makes the machines obsolete about every 2 years or sooner.
                          NRA PATRON LIFE MEMBER

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                          • #28
                            Iknownot
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2174

                            I've had pretty good luck with Dell over the years. Buying fell via Costco usually gets you more memory and a bigger HDD for the same price as going through Dell directly.

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                            • #29
                              glockman19
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 10486

                              Originally posted by Iknownot
                              I've had pretty good luck with Dell over the years. Buying fell via Costco usually gets you more memory and a bigger HDD for the same price as going through Dell directly.
                              The BEST way to buy a Dell Computer is via Teacher/Student Discount. I registered at the local community college. I bought the Adobe CS6 Master Collection for $799, Retail $2,899, and saved similarly on the purchase of the Dell Computer and Microsoft Office Pro with 2 computer user agreements perfect for a laptop desktop combo.

                              And I took the night classes at the local community college for a few semesters learning Adobe Acrobat Pro, Dreamweaver and Flash.

                              The Academic Superstore offers lots of Teacher Student Discounts.

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                              • #30
                                sonofeugene
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 4649

                                Originally posted by Pally
                                I've been looking to replace one my HP Desktops (i7 3.4Ghz, 16 GB ram, 1 TB hd, Win 8.0). I bought it a few years back at Costco. I hate Win 8, very happy with Win 7, but I'm not sure if I should upgrade to Win 10...

                                One of the major problems is that is seems like recently, the machines I've looked at (Costco, Sam's, Amazon, Best Buy, etc..) have really bad ratings.
                                I am trying to stay in the $800 range for the machine only.

                                I recently purchased a Win 7 HP laptop at Costco and had to return it. Junk!
                                I purchased another Win 7 HP laptop direct, incredibly slow, should have returned it!

                                Where do you tech guys/gals purchase reliable and affordable machines?
                                Is it even possible to get a reliable Win 7 machine anymore?
                                One thing that will slow any machine down is all the extra software that gets installed nowadays from the factory. Many refer to this software as "bloatware". Whether you get a new machine, or choose to reuse your old equipment, make sure you go through the system (get help if you need to) and remove all the extra software and crap that you don't need. This usually makes the computer run faster and with fewer crashes.

                                You might consider simply buying a new hard drive (and more memory) and installing it in your old computer. Use Windows 7 Professional. Do not use Windows 8 or even 10 as 10 has it's own problems. If you do this, do NOT have your old drive installed in the computer when you install the new hard drive, load Windows 7, and load all your apps. ONLY when the rebuilt system is up and running (normally will only take a few hours to do everything) do you want to install your old hard drive in the slave position. Once you do that, you can easily access all your files from the old drive and transfer them to the new drive. After you're done with that, remove the old drive and put it in a file cabinet somewhere.
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