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  • oaklander
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    • May 2006
    • 11095

    NFA Trusts (EDIT: Fee Added)

    I have been approached by quite a few people interested in NFA Trusts. I am currently researching the issue and expect to be able to draw these up very soon.

    Just wanted to put this out there so that people didn't think I had forgotten about them.



    EDIT: thread updated - see this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3&postcount=97
    Last edited by oaklander; 02-14-2011, 12:25 AM.
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    6172crew
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    • Oct 2005
    • 6240

    Do you need a LE sign off for a trust? As a class 3 holder I think you do but not 100%.

    Plus I know the ATF wont give you a stamp if its not allowed in your state.

    Just some things you prolly already know.
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    • #3
      ke6guj
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      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Thats one of the main points of a trust, no LE sign off. No fingerprints or photos either.

      ATF has given CA trusts tax stamps for CA-legal NFA items.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        NorCal MedTac
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 599

        Originally posted by oaklander
        I have been approached by quite a few people interested in NFA Trusts. I am currently researching the issue and expect to be able to draw these up very soon.

        Just wanted to put this out there so that people didn't think I had forgotten about them.

        Thanks for your effort!
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        • #5
          DesertGunner
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          • Jan 2008
          • 336

          Originally posted by ke6guj
          Thats one of the main points of a trust, no LE sign off. No fingerprints or photos either.

          ATF has given CA trusts tax stamps for CA-legal NFA items.
          Enlighten me: what NFA items would be CA-legal?

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          • #6
            Diabolus
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 4720

            I think you can make a short bbl shotgun.

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            • #7
              thedrickel
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2006
              • 5577

              I hate people that are full of hate.

              It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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              • #8
                JeffM
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 4359

                Originally posted by DesertGunner
                Enlighten me: what NFA items would be CA-legal?
                There is a thread about this if you search.

                Basically AOWs, and C&R SBSs/SBRs are CA legal NFA items.

                Sound suppressors, MGs, and non-C&R SBSs/SBRs are not.

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                • #9
                  ptoguy2002
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3863

                  Ooh.
                  What is the approx cost, normal NFA trust set up, standard, no outside issues, etc to set up a trust for NFA guns?
                  Thanks
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                  • #10
                    mauritz45
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 71

                    good to know, thanks for tackling this.-cam

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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
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                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by DesertGunner
                      Enlighten me: what NFA items would be CA-legal?
                      Technically, just about everything is CA legal if you have CLEO sign-off and a CADOJ permit.

                      Practically, only C&R SBS/SBR, DDs under .60", and AOWs (except pen-guns). They also need to comply with the AW regs.

                      I'd take any more specific NFA firearms questions to the AOW/SBS/SBR thread, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=82693 so we don't further hi-jack oaklander's NFA trust thread.
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        thedrickel
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 5577

                        Did somebody say "AOW"???

                        I hate people that are full of hate.

                        It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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                        • #13
                          ke6guj
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          As is, that AK pistol is not an AOW. Planning on putting the forward grip back on? There is another calgunner planning on the same thing, getting an AOW form 1 so he can put the forward grip back on.
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                          • #14
                            thedrickel
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 5577

                            Yep, I'd like to put the front grip back on. Still have to keep the BB, but oh well. I'll live I guess
                            I hate people that are full of hate.

                            It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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                              LOW2000
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 941

                              Mmm, serbu super shorty sounds mighty appealing. Would be nice to have a 12ga in the dresser drawer

                              ETA: Oh my, I just got giddy at the thought of OCing a serbu super shorty since is not classified as a shotgun and i think there may be no prohibition on the OC of an AOW.
                              Last edited by LOW2000; 07-07-2008, 8:48 PM.
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