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  • Venom.357
    Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 114

    Help me choose my next ak?

    I currently have an ak74 im very happy with. But I'm in the market now for an ak47. I've looked around at prices, and I recall doing business with preppergunshop and the service they gave me was unbeatable. So my next purchase is going to be with them.

    I will be using this as my go to rifle, for the range or if any shtf scenario occurs.

    I guess the question here is, what's the best deal out of these 3? I'm somewhat concerned with the CAI rifles, because of their known issues with canted front sights, but I have 2 CAI rifles right now that are not canted. I just dont want to push my luck. So it's between CAI C39, CAI Npap or a Yugo N Pap M70.

    The Yugo seems to be the best deal, considering its california ready and only $480. I have aftermarket pieces I will be placing on my next ak47, so im not really concerned about hardware.

    What I am concerned about is fit and function as far as ak47's go as well as the best bang for my buck.

    The c39 looks to be a milled receiver and is the most expensive out of the 3, it has my prefered brake on the muzzle and rails, which im most likely going to replace.

    CAI c39


    The Npap is not milled, but im told is a great ak47 for the price, yet it is somewhat heavy from what I understand. If i get it, i plan to remove the wood hardware for synthetic, which would make up for some of the weight. I also like the polished bolt. - comes with 21 10 round mags.

    CAI Npap


    The Yugo Npap M70. Seems to be set at a great price, cheaper of the 3 im looking at, considering it is already California legal, I'm not a huge fan of the thumbhole stock, but i have a synthetic stock i plan to put in as a replacement, it also has a polished bolt. comes with 21 10 round mags.

  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    Be advised that both of the N-PAP AK style rifles in the links utilize single-stack AK magazines.
    Single-stack AK magazines are less common than the double-stack AK magazines. Which is why they are including 21 magazines with the rifle and why the package is priced cheaper than AK style rifles that utilize double-stack AK magazines.
    In order to use the more common double-stack AK magazines, you will need to widen (dremel/grind/cut) the magazine well and you will also need to utilize Fed 922r compliance parts.
    In addition, "Yugo AKs" utilize furniture that is not compatible with other AK style firearms due to the type of receiver used in the "Yugo AKs". So, you will need to use aftermarket furniture designed for "Yugo AKs".

    Due to issues with the C39, Century Arms has developed and released a product improved versions with a better quality barrel called the C39v2 (milled receiver) and RAS47 (stamped receiver).


    If I had to choose an AK style rifle offered by Century Arms, I would go with the RAS47.
    Last edited by Quiet; 02-08-2015, 8:03 PM.
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    • #3
      SILENT GUNMAN
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 1468

      How about one of these? They doesn't come with a ton of mags, but at least you can use standard mags in it.

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      • #4
        JWHuey
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 2300

        Buy a new WASR.
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        • #5
          fettonya
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 685

          That's what I'm talking about, a new WASR.

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          • #6
            imbryanxxx
            Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 103

            im getting the c39 v2

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            • #7
              Venom.357
              Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 114

              Quiet - Thank you for the heads up on the selection i had, I didn't realize that yugos take diff furniture and thanks for the info on the single stack mags - that totally saved me from buying that - I do like that ras47 after watching the video on it.

              wasr10 - Although I have heard good things about the new wasr10's and that iraqi contractor deal, it just quirks me that the mag might be a little wobbly. It's just an ocd thing I guess. Or am i totally wrong about the wobbly mags?

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30241

                Originally posted by Venom.357
                wasr10 - Although I have heard good things about the new wasr10's and that iraqi contractor deal, it just quirks me that the mag might be a little wobbly. It's just an ocd thing I guess. Or am i totally wrong about the wobbly mags?
                Magazine wobble is due to the fact that they are imported as single-stack magazine firearms and are modified to accept double-stack magazines.
                How much magazine wobble there is, is dependent upon the skill of the person doing the modification.

                Due to import laws, semi-auto centerfire rifles can not have a magazine capacity of 11 rounds or greater.
                Since AK double-stack magazines are commonly made with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds, semi-auto centerfire AK style rifles can not be imported using double-stack AK magazines. Which is why some manufacturers utilize single-stack magazines for their imported semi-auto centerfire AK style rifles.
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                • #9
                  gwgn02
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3397

                  Originally posted by Quiet
                  Magazine wobble is due to the fact that they are imported as single-stack magazine firearms and are modified to accept double-stack magazines.
                  How much magazine wobble there is, is dependent upon the skill of the person doing the modification.

                  Due to import laws, semi-auto centerfire rifles can not have a magazine capacity of 11 rounds or greater.
                  Since AK double-stack magazines are commonly made with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds, semi-auto centerfire AK style rifles can not be imported using double-stack AK magazines. Which is why some manufacturers utilize single-stack magazines for their imported semi-auto centerfire AK style rifles.
                  Mag wobble is a non-issue function wise anyways...loose or tight an AK will run just fine..the dimples are there to reinforce the receiver, the opening of the magwell should not be cut so close that mags are snug...because of different tolerances of every possible type mag you might encounter. If it wobbles...its not a sign of poor quality craftsmanship either.

                  OP for the money WASR is a no brainer...if you wanna step into a great milled for the money...C39v2.
                  Last edited by gwgn02; 02-08-2015, 10:39 PM.

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                  • #10
                    hellayella
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 5578

                    WASR or NPAP (hi-cap)

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                    • #11
                      hellayella
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 5578

                      the 2 paps that are shown are the single stackers...prob old stock CAI PAPs...

                      the new gen NPAPs have the magwell opened up and have the mil-spec bolt

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                      • #12
                        gt3
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 791

                        c39 v2 ak

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                        • #13
                          roger1022
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2008

                          WASR or OPAP
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                          We'll cover you if it doesn't work out...

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                          • #14
                            Gene1986
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 835

                            If its going to be your only ak47 save up and buy the highest quality you can and forget about it.

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                            • #15
                              Bobby Ricigliano
                              Mit Gott und Mauser
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 17439

                              I just added a second OPAP to my collection. I have had quibbles with other AK variants I owned. I had an M10 that a ridiculously tight magwell, polymer mags would never seat. I've had a couple WASR's, loved FMJ but did not feed HP's at all.

                              The OPAP has a smidgen of slop in the magwell which means ANY magazine works fine. It feeds all ammo types 100%. My unconverted Saigas are also fantastic. I have had a brand new Lancaster AK for a few years but I've never gotten around to shooting it.

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