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  • #16
    MacanTaillear
    Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 108

    I've heard a number of times that being hit in the hand with a .45 ACP fired from a 1911 (that part is crucial) will turn the victim's guts to jelly.

    I've also heard a couple of times that the 5.56 round tumbles as it goes through the air so the wound it inflicts is worse.

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    • #17
      barrage
      Banned
      • Oct 2012
      • 3351

      Originally posted by Peter.Steele
      Are you sure that the guy said 5.56mm? You do realize that the Mk149 cartridge fired by CIWS uses APDS projectiles, right?
      You're going to have to trust me on this. There was no misunderstanding. He was very clear and it was really pretty funny.

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      • #18
        mif_slim
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 10089

        So the census thus far tells me that its half true half not....

        Edit: I forgot to add the detail that he said it was from his sniper rifle, 7.62Nato round.


        Originally posted by MacanTaillear
        I've heard a number of times that being hit in the hand with a .45 ACP fired from a 1911 (that part is crucial) will turn the victim's guts to jelly.

        I've also heard a couple of times that the 5.56 round tumbles as it goes through the air so the wound it inflicts is worse.
        haha I think I know where that came from...Im sure most myths comes from things like this (Skip to 2:05).

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        • #19
          StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 2995

          Originally posted by MacanTaillear
          I've heard a number of times that being hit in the hand with a .45 ACP fired from a 1911 (that part is crucial) will turn the victim's guts to jelly.

          I've also heard a couple of times that the 5.56 round tumbles as it goes through the air so the wound it inflicts is worse.
          I actually had some goof tell me a similar legend about the 45 also. He said if you get hit in the hand with a 9mm it's no big deal, but if you get hit with a 45 hardball in a finger your going down. He was a FFL dealer and also and had a secretive miltary past that he couldn't talk about.
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          • #20
            ziconceo
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3269

            This is a complete bogus myth. A 50 cal could pass 1/2 an inch from you and cause no damage at all. mythbusters already busted this myth a long time ago.

            you can see the 50 cal traveling nearby fragile glass and doing nothing in the first few seconds.

            I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.

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            • #21
              SB1964
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 4876

              Dang, "military" 12 gauge ammo's gotta be amazing...
              Yes I took the pic, no I didn't go swimming!

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              • #22
                CK_32
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 14369

                Sure.


                If he's in the Field Artillery battalion lol

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                • #23
                  Marquand
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1482

                  Sure...and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot....
                  "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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                  • #24
                    unusedusername
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4124

                    Ordinance can and does do that kind of thing. With extremely rare exceptions, ammunition does not.

                    Many folks use those terms interchangeably when they should not.

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                    • #25
                      Librarian
                      Admin and Poltergeist
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44680

                      Originally posted by unusedusername
                      Ordinance can and does do that kind of thing.
                      Ordnance, too.
                      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                      • #26
                        MontClaire
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4859

                        Originally posted by PyroFox79
                        From what I remember being told when in the Marine Corps is that if a 50 cal round gets within 6 inches of you. It can take away skin due to the air pressure surrounding the round. Or something along those lines. I would figure it could apply to any ammo just have to get closer the smaller the round Is.
                        I don't know about the skin but a muzzle blast from a AR 308 shook my teeth fillings as I was standing next to it. The gasses coughing through it's muzzle break also shook my beer belly. I was stuttering for the rest of the day mostly. And now, I always stay behind the shooter.

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                        • #27
                          Mitch
                          Mostly Harmless
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6574

                          Originally posted by mif_slim
                          You guys ever heard this before?
                          I haven't, but keep in mind that in some countries private possession of firearms in military chambering (ie, 9mm, etc) is prohibited. Maybe based on the same silly idea.
                          Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                          Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                          • #28
                            jtake
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 367

                            Here is a test one guy did to see if shooting a .50 cal over water could form a rooster tail. Bottom line was no.

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                            • #29
                              CBruce
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1993

                              Originally posted by mif_slim
                              The saying is that military ammo is so powerful and so fast that even if it misses a person within a few feet, the person will still be shred to pieces. In show of respect, i just nodded and said "ok". This came from a vet who's career was cut short by an IED.

                              So, tell me this is true, because i need some for hunting those pesky ground hogs!!

                              You guys ever heard this before?
                              Are they talking about rail guns and cruise missiles or something?

                              Cause they sure as hell aren't talking about 5.56 NATO. That's an absolutely ludicrous claim. On par with using AR-15s to 'blow up railroads and shoot down planes'

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                              • #30
                                MauserMike
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 684

                                Just watched an old sniper thing on history channel 2. the one about the first guys with the xm107. they shot 2 guys with one bullet and said the same thing about the round, that it could kill you without actually touching you. the shooter aimed right for the middle of the two targets, killing them both. I wonder why a trained sniper would say something that isnt true. Why would he believe what others say is incorrect when he is the one actually shooting and seeing these things happen? Id say its plausible everything has a sliver of truth in it. not saying its going to kill you if it misses just saying there has to be something to this myth or it wouldnt be so widely believed
                                Last edited by MauserMike; 01-28-2015, 10:58 AM.
                                Slapping an upper onto a lower is not "building" an AR-15.

                                What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you illiterate pawns not understand!?

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