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  • #16
    SoberClurichaun
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1437

    Originally posted by Sikvenum93
    Should always pay after. That's been the case in all my PPTs. If you pay before, what if a party forgets a crucial item? What if they get denied? What if that shop isn't doing PPTs etc.
    For the people who are worried about the buyer leaving without paying, that's a groundless fear. All transactions will be video recorded and the person must fill out a bunch of paperwork.
    Technically I don't think that would be seen as stealing if you were foolish enough to get caught up that way. All PPTs I have done it went inspection then the cash, then proceed to paperwork. I've done 3 I believe and been on both sides, all went smooth as silk.
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    • #17
      Gryff
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2006
      • 12693

      I've always done the inspection in the LGS, and then paid (or been paid) after everyone's in agreement that the transaction should proceed. Then the LGS starts the paperwork.
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      • #18
        ugimports
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Jun 2009
        • 6251

        I don't see it stated but whether you're buyer or seller your best course for ensuring everything is on the up and up is to write up a bill of sale with the terms, including how funds get refunded during a denial or what happens if buyer doesn't pick up in 30 days, etc...
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        • #19
          Erion929
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 4706

          Personally, I'm good to go, so it's not me I'm worried about.

          BUT, what I worry about is what if I pay the seller and the gun comes up stolen? Am I totally screwed?

          As far as the thread topic, I've done 2 buys and 2 sells and we have always paid first, before paperwork gets started. Seems to be the preferred way, though not necessarily the smartest for all concerned.
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          • #20
            ugimports
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Jun 2009
            • 6251

            Originally posted by Erion929
            ...
            BUT, what I worry about is what if I pay the seller and the gun comes up stolen? Am I totally screwed?

            ...
            potentially, hence the recommendation to have a written contract. a seller not concerned with it being stolen and very legit should have no concerns signing really.. if they do it should be a sign...

            I had 1 customer recently who was on the buying end of a "stolen" gun...turns out it was a mistake from DOJ/history that he had to wait get resolved, but it could have gone sideways I'm sure if it wasn't legit as he didn't find out status until he was delayed from pickup by DOJ.
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            • #21
              JDay
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 19393

              If the seller knows it's a stolen gun they're not going to want to do the DROS.
              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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              • #22
                ugimports
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Jun 2009
                • 6251

                You never know...Don't give "stupid" too much credit
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                • #23
                  optimus-primer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 613

                  When selling a gun, it's not my responsibility if the buyer doesn't pick it up within 30 days or pass dros. Would I try to get the gun back? Sure I guess, but the fees would come out of the buyers pocket.

                  I've always collected and paid before the paperwork. Though there have been a couple of times we chatted right through the paperwork and exchange the funds after.

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                  • #24
                    keenkeen
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2011
                    • 6782

                    Seller places gun on counter.

                    Buyer then "makes it rain" by throwing this stack of bills in the air.
                    "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                    • #25
                      Barang
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 13569

                      Inspect the gun ---> go in the lgs ---> once DROS forms are on the counter and IDs are given to the clerk ---->pay the the seller inconspicously.

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                      • #26
                        ugimports
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 6251

                        Originally posted by optimus-primer
                        When selling a gun, it's not my responsibility if the buyer doesn't pick it up within 30 days or pass dros. Would I try to get the gun back? Sure I guess, but the fees would come out of the buyers pocket.
                        ...
                        There are no fees for you to get the gun back. If the buyer doesn't pass DROS or misses 30 day window the firearm either goes back to you or goes to popo. It never transfers to buyer's name if they get rejected or don't pass DROS so it's still technically your pistol. What you choose to do with it or not do with it is up to you.
                        Last edited by ugimports; 01-05-2015, 6:44 PM. Reason: fixed double negative
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