Need your opinion about possible malfunctioning

[Fight CA GC]

This is my first post here! Please help me out.

I just picked up my Walther PPQ M2 and I have been getting to know it. When I release the slide catcher with the magazine containing dummy rounds, it works fine. But when I RACK the slide, thats when I have an issue.

The slide doesn't always come fully foward (it stops at about 1/4 to 1/2 inch). So I tried using live rounds (to rack with the slide) to see if the dummy rounds were the problem, they weren't. I still get the same result.

I called the shop, took it in, and they saw what I was talking about. The employee told me that when the slide is racked slowly, it sometimes doesn't come fully foward. Also, he said he has a 1911 that does the same thing and that after time, it will stop having that problem. Supposedly, its like breaking in shoes or cleats.


I never experienced this with my USP .45. Not when it was new or even till now. Has anybody experienced the same issue?

To rule out any possibilities:
1) It's not incorrect ammuniton
2) It's not the dummy rounds; I used live ammunition as well.

[madsend81]

Are you easing the slide forward when you "rack" the slide, or are you letting it fly on its own?

[ConcealedKalifornia]

Kahrs are notorious for this problem. I simply had to learn to man up and rack the slide "sling shot" style every time, or else lock it and use the slide release.

I don't know about your gun specifically, but with Kahrs, it isn't so much of a malfunction, as it is a design issue.

[jben]

Put a dab of grease on the slide rails.

[golfrj]

Put a dab of grease on the slide rails.

Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!! Run New guns wet!!

[Fight CA GC]

Are you easing the slide forward when you "rack" the slide, or are you letting it fly on its own?

When I ease the slide, I encounter then issue. When I let the slide zip on its own, it works fine. It just seems weird because this problem never happened before or now with my USP (with easing the slide).

[Fight CA GC]

Put a dab of grease on the slide rails.

Grease? I don't know if you are messing with me or not because I have never heard of putting grease in the slide. I always put Hoppes lubricating oil.

By the way, do new handguns normally come lubricated or dry? The reason I ask is because my USP came lubricated while the PPQ did not. Anything seem fishy there or is it the choice of the gun companies?

[Marquand]

I think the "break it in" advice from your LGS is sound - if you are "riding" the slide forward instead of letting it fly on it's own it is common to experience this sort of thing with a tight, factory fresh pistol. After the slide and frame rub against each other for a while I doubt you will see this occur again.

As for not seeing this phenomenon with your HK? I'd chalk that up to either cleaner finish work from HK or a tighter slide-to-frame fit on the Walther...your guess is as good as mine.

[Fight CA GC]

Kahrs are notorious for this problem. I simply had to learn to man up and rack the slide "sling shot" style every time, or else lock it and use the slide release.

I don't know about your gun specifically, but with Kahrs, it isn't so much of a malfunction, as it is a design issue.

I appreciate your input! Thank you.

[Chaos47]

When I ease the slide, I encounter then issue. When I let the slide zip on its own, it works fine. It just seems weird because this problem never happened before or now with my USP (with easing the slide).

Theres your problem.
Never ride (ease) slides / bolts / charging handles when it comes to chambering a round* on semi autos.
Easy as that.

*On an empty chamber, easing them on certain firearms is a good idea to prevent damage.

[Marquand]

Grease? I don't know if you are messing with me or not because I have never heard of putting grease in the slide. I always put Hoppes lubricating oil.

By the way, do new handguns normally come lubricated or dry? The reason I ask is because my USP came lubricated while the PPQ did not. Anything seem fishy there or is it the choice of the gun companies?

It depends on the manufacturer. Most pistols don't come dry but not all pistols come lubricated from the factory. Some just have a rust preventative coating them that may or may not also be a lubricant. Read your instruction manual and follow their advice on whether or not to clean your pistol before firing it for the first time.

[Fight CA GC]

It depends on the manufacturer. Most pistols don't come dry but not all pistols come lubricated from the factory. Some just have a rust preventative coating them that may or may not also be a lubricant. Read your instruction manual and follow their advice on whether or not to clean your pistol before firing it for the first time.

Thank you. Much appreciated! I have less than a year of experience with firearms. That's why I have so many rookie questions.

[Fight CA GC]

Theres your problem.
Never ride (ease) slides / bolts / charging handles when it comes to chambering a round* on semi autos.
Easy as that.

*On an empty chamber, easing them on certain firearms is a good idea to prevent damage.

Thanks for the tip.

[killmime1234]

Theres your problem.
Never ride (ease) slides / bolts / charging handles when it comes to chambering a round* on semi autos.
Easy as that.

*On an empty chamber, easing them on certain firearms is a good idea to prevent damage.

This. They're designed to use the full force of the recoil spring to go into battery.

[Marquand]

Thank you. Much appreciated! I have less than a year of experience with firearms. That's why I have so many rookie questions.

Nothing in the world wrong with "rookie" questions. You were smart enough to ask instead of wallowing in doubt. Welcome to the wonderful world of firearms and ask away. Sharing is what this community is about.