Bill Ruger?

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Regardless of what you feel about Bill Ruger Sr's gun policies, he was one of the greatest and most influential gun designers of the second half of the 20th century. He was a bonafide, undisputed genius of firearm design, and made Ruger the largest American gun company.

He was, by all reports, a testy, cranky, opinionated curmudgeon. I have no doubt he was convinced he was right.

I'm not trying to defend his decisions, just pointing out that he was a major contributor to America's gun industry in the last century. This legacy is diminished by his naive approach to magazine capacity limits, but he still towers.

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[Stanze]

ruger rolled over preemptively. couldn't wait to sell us out.

S&W sold out, too, to save their business.

however, S&W apologized, pulled their head out, and is back on the righteous path.

When S&W was owned by a British firm they sold us out, but have since returned to American owners since 2001 who are working hard to conduct damage control done by the previous owners. Many people who are uninformed still boycott S & W.

[50 Freak]

Only Rugers I buy are used. No way will I buy new stuff from them. Too bad a sellout company like that makes good products.

[PanzerAce]

ruger rolled over preemptively. couldn't wait to sell us out.

S&W sold out, too, to save their business.

however, S&W apologized, pulled their head out, and is back on the righteous path.

until ruger does the same, I have no choice but to believe ruger and continues his anti-citizen elitist policies.

the sooner ruger goes to Hell the sooner I will like it.

could you explain how SW sold out? I wasnt into guns I guess when that happened...

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When one of you gives as much money to the NRA as Bill Ruger did then you'll have a right to bitch, until then your opinions are worthless. In reality you may be allowed to own the guns you have today because of this man you all seem to hate so much.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

When one of you gives as much money to the NRA as Bill Ruger did then you'll have a right to bitch, until then your opinions are worthless. In reality you may be allowed to own the guns you have today because of this man you all seem to hate so much.

Bill Sr. didn't give a cent to NRA-ILA, from what I understand. And I don't know where you get this attitude that our opinions are "worthless".

Ruger didn't save squat with his call for a >10 round mag ban. He was attempting to save his Mini-14, but as M1As and Kel-Tecs are still legal in California, he didn't even do his "little rifle" that much good. All he really accomplished was to encourage the mag ban.

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could you explain how SW sold out? I wasnt into guns I guess when that happened...

They made some deal with the Clinton administration to avoid gun-industry lawsuits by only selling their goods at shops that sold neutered guns and complied with various other extra-legel requirements, but it never really panned out.

I'm sure with a web search you could read more about it.

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"As an individual, Ruger was as strong a supporter of the NRA as I can think of," said Jim Baker, former director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action and a close personal friend. "Many people are aware of Ruger's generous support of the NRA Museum, but not many are aware of the active interest he had in the issues that faced the NRA and his willingness to contribute his personal time to help us resolve those issues."
In very recent years Bill's support of efforts to promote our shooting traditions and firearms freedoms took on an international scope as he asked Ted Rowe, his long-time friend and current director of marketing for Sturm, Ruger, to lead an effort to better communicate with United Nations representatives and related international agencies on international issues regarding firearms.
Baker commented that, "It was always encouraging to me, in my position as head of the ILA, to know that an individual with Bill Ruger's stature and judgment was willing to take the time and to take whatever personal action might be necessary to help ensure our firearms freedoms."
Our shooting sports heritage and our firearms freedoms are that much stronger and more secure today because of that personal commitment.


From the head of the ILA- Took about as long to find it as the negative crap that was dredged up. When you take a mans life and narrow it down to one act that you probably don't even fully understand you show yourselves to be truly narrowminded individuals. I stand by my convictions that Bill Ruger did more for firearms ownership in this country than any man who's ever posted on CalGuns.net and proudly buy and shoot Ruger products. I'm done with it.

[Creeping Incrementalism]

When you take a mans life and narrow it down to one act

He sold us out. You can never make up for that. What do people remember Benedict Arnold for? Vidkun Quisling? And deservedly so.

The OLLs from CalGuns.net alone are a greater contribution to RKBA than what Ruger did for the NRA.

The Mini sucks anyway.

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Well, Bill Ruger may have stabbed us in the back, but he was friends with people who didn't, and he was nice enough to build a museum so our grandchildren can see what a real gun looks like after our rights finally get chipped away into dust.

I just don't understand why folks don't see how great he was.....
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[glen avon]

When one of you gives as much money to the NRA as Bill Ruger did then you'll have a right to bitch,...

he gave a million dollars IN HIS OWN NAME to a freakin' MUSEUM.

he's not buying me off, and certainly not tricking me into forgiving his political sins by throwing money through the NRA back to his own aggrandizement.

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could you explain how SW sold out? I wasnt into guns I guess when that happened...

S&W was told by the clinton administration that there would be no more federal contracts and many less state and local contracts for S&W products unless they did as told.

so, to keep in business, they did. I think they should not have, but they did and I understand why.

[glen avon]

"In very recent years Bill's support of efforts to promote our shooting traditions and firearms freedoms took on an international scope as he asked Ted Rowe, his long-time friend and current director of marketing for Sturm, Ruger, to lead an effort to better communicate with United Nations representatives and related international agencies on international issues regarding firearms.

shooting traditions. heh. this has algore and an O/U shotgun written all over it. wonder who makes those....

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[FatKatMatt]

Dude, did you get that out of Penthouse?