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  • wutzu
    Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 325

    Bill Ruger?

    I've been hearing stuff here and there about Bill Ruger screwing gun owners, or doing something else that is vague but bad like that. What's the story?
    If you're not a resident of California, please don't waste your time trying to sell handguns here. A: your handgun is not on the approved list, and can't be sold here or B: We can already get it here with less hassle.

    Thank you CGF and Leadership FFLs for NeRFing the roster!
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    wutzu
    Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 325

    Google is my friend

    OK, so I googled Bill Ruger, and my questions were answered. For those reading this thread who don't know (I didn't until two minutes ago):

    Bill Ruger was the first person to suggest a ban on "high-capacity" magazines. He figured that no-one would ban his cash cows (mini 14/30, 10/22) if he could preempt them by banning high-caps. This guy was a tremendous douche and he screwed us over for money.

    Someone should crap on his grave marker, after ingesting popcorn and beer.

    If you're not a resident of California, please don't waste your time trying to sell handguns here. A: your handgun is not on the approved list, and can't be sold here or B: We can already get it here with less hassle.

    Thank you CGF and Leadership FFLs for NeRFing the roster!

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    • #3

      he refused to ever apologize. but feeling guilty before he died, he donated $1 million to the NRA museum in his own name.

      what an a-hole. none of it went to politics, just to the ruger museum.

      don't forget his refusal to sell his GB series semi-autos to the unwashed masses, or the good hicap mags. the 20s he reluctantly agreed to sell are lower quality than the 30s he restricted to LEOs.

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      • #4
        Stanze
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3301

        It's been discussed here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ght=bill+ruger
        Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

        "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


        "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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        • #5
          Paltik.45acp
          Member
          • Jul 2004
          • 176

          That's one of the main reasons I'm not buying any Ruger Firearms anymore!!!

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          • #6
            whatever
            Member
            • Sep 2002
            • 281

            Bill Ruger is dead. Someone else is running the company now.

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            • #7

              did you boycott them out of principle while he was still alive?

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              • #8
                Stanze
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 3301

                Originally posted by whatever
                Bill Ruger is dead. Someone else is running the company now.
                But, his civvie policy on mags still lives on right?
                Constitutionally, officials cannot license or register a fundamental right.

                "It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." - Benjamin Franklin


                "Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack." -Stanze

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                • #9
                  LeoC
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 41

                  Originally posted by whatever
                  Bill Ruger is dead. Someone else is running the company now.
                  That may be, but until the company officially renounces what Bill Ruger did to gun owners and the gun industry as a whole, I will never buy a Ruger product. Bill Ruger's death doesn't tell us what the next head of the company's views on RKBA are. So unless given reason to think otherwise, my view of Ruger as a company is the same as when Bill pushed for the magazine restriction.
                  "If just one tenth of the people in this country who own guns would raise their voices to the politicians, or contribute a small amount of their time and money, we could stop the ban-the-gun crowd."
                  -Former California State Assemblyman Tom McClintock

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                  • #10
                    VeryCoolCat
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11275

                    At least ruger firearms are exceedingly cheap... I feel Ronnie Barrett is a good man who stands up for his principals but I couldn't afford anything that came from his company anytime soon.
                    Originally posted by Kestryll
                    The volume of blood necessary to achieve erection would cause you to either pass out or if you didn't and managed to maintain an erection you would likely die from lack of oxygen to the heart and brain.
                    Originally posted by ivanimal
                    Just be glad you are not his next door neighbor. I am sure there are "good tunes" flowing out the window. I am imagining a cop car pulling up at 1:30 AM asking "Are you having a party?" and Bundo sayin "Nope just me and the BG's"

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                    • #11
                      bu-bye
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2835

                      Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
                      At least ruger firearms are exceedingly cheap... I feel Ronnie Barrett is a good man who stands up for his principals but I couldn't afford anything that came from his company anytime soon.
                      There are other better guns in the same price range. I will never buy or own a ruger. Bill f-ed up and his company should pay for it. The only gun I have had second thoughts about owning was the 10/22 but it only took 5 seconds for me to remember why I don't buy ruger.
                      "Calling an illegal alien a "undocumented worker" is like calling the drug dealer hanging around outside your kid's school an "unlicensed pharmacist."

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                      • #12
                        HillBilly
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 830

                        Originally posted by VeryCoolCat
                        At least ruger firearms are exceedingly cheap... I feel Ronnie Barrett is a good man who stands up for his principals but I couldn't afford anything that came from his company anytime soon.

                        I feel that Ronnie Barrett has more to lose, thus elevating him to RKBA hero status IMO. Barrett has a niche market, and his bread and butter is from police and military contracts. Telling them to *F* off based on political differences is ballsy and costly. He did it anyway.

                        Ruger's sells something for everyone, and they sell plenty. They aren't hurt if a few gun "nuts" are offended. I like some of their products, but would only buy them on the used market.

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                        • #13
                          kantstudien
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1795

                          Originally posted by Stanze
                          But, his civvie policy on mags still lives on right?
                          Your damn right it lives on. Try calling Ruger for a follower or floorplate for your old 20s and 30s and see what they say. Screw 'em.

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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by LeoC
                            That may be, but until the company officially renounces what Bill Ruger did to gun owners and the gun industry as a whole, I will never buy a Ruger product....
                            ruger rolled over preemptively. couldn't wait to sell us out.

                            S&W sold out, too, to save their business.

                            however, S&W apologized, pulled their head out, and is back on the righteous path.

                            until ruger does the same, I have no choice but to believe ruger and continues his anti-citizen elitist policies.

                            the sooner ruger goes to Hell the sooner I will like it.
                            Last edited by Guest; 06-08-2006, 7:43 AM.

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                            • #15
                              gmcem50
                              Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 445

                              Unfortunately, I found out about Mr. Ruger's antics AFTER I bought my 10/22, Mini14, & SP101. I will NEVER spend another cent on a Ruger anything. When I saw his face on the cover of the NRA Magazine I almost puked.

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