High cap mags and big brother

[The Director]

Okay so I legally own quite a few high caps that I purchased long before any ban. I already know the legality of these.

Is it right to say tat effectively California has zero control over high caps for anyone that wants any? I mean, there are a proliferation of vendors who will sell high caps for....ahem....repair purposes (wink wink). I know people who have flown to another state and fedexed themselves high caps as well.

So what's the deal? Again, I am fully aware of what the law says, but since you are not required to present LEOs with receipts or proof you had the magazines before the ban, what stops people from buying these today and stating you had 'em before the ban?

I'm trying to figure this out but am coming to the conclusion that the high cap magazine thing is totally, completely unenforceable in practice. Agreements?

[USN CHIEF]

What is stopping people from buying normal capacity magazines is the law. It all comes down to the honor system. There have not been any cases that I know of where a gun owner was charged and convicted for having a normal capacity magazine.

One other thing for those that break the law, the law will catch up to them sooner or later.

[Jpach]

It would be hard to prove that one didnt have the mags prior to the ban or find them somewhere on the floor, but most people here would probably think its not a good idea. Just keep your new rebuild kits disassembled until the zombies come or until the law changes

[The Director]

I get that, that's not the point of my post. The point is the law is so absurdly unenforceable that I think I'd have just as much of a problem proving my early nineties AK mags are legal since I've long lost the receipts as joe schmoe would with the ones he bought last week and ditched the receipt.

[USN CHIEF]

I get that, that's not the point of my post. The point is the law is so absurdly unenforceable that I think I'd have just as much of a problem proving my early nineties AK mags are legal since I've long lost the receipts as joe schmoe would with the ones he bought last week and ditched the receipt.

So what do you suggest? That they rewrite the law? CA Gun laws suck and the vast majority don't make sense and are stupid, but we must abide by them until they get changed.

[The Director]

Actually they should rewrite it!

I suppose I'm just venting at the stupidity of it and confirming what everyone already knows.

[USN CHIEF]

The sad part is that if they were to rewrite it, it would make less sense and cause more heartaches to law abiding gun owners.

[308fan]

It was a feel good law by our friends Boxer and Feinstein. Yes, I am sure they knew it was virtually unenforceable but it was one more law on the books to chip away at out freedom.
308fan

[sorensen440]

well it works in the sense that I cant say I had a high-cap for my ( Enter new model gun here) before the ban because it didnt exist

[berto]

I get that, that's not the point of my post. The point is the law is so absurdly unenforceable that I think I'd have just as much of a problem proving my early nineties AK mags are legal since I've long lost the receipts as joe schmoe would with the ones he bought last week and ditched the receipt.

You don't have to prove your mags are legit, the govt. has to prove they aren't.

[SJgunguy24]

Common sense is uncommon when dealing with California lawmakers. The problem is people keep voting these idiots in. I see stupid people everywhere. I see puppets with invisable strings, remember were supposed to conform. I'm not a puppet,i'm not a sheep, I have a brain and am fully capable of thinking for myself. That is what scare's the lawmakers.

[rkt88edmo]

Anyone who is selling "high cap magazines" for use as spare parts is not very smart and will be banned from calguns for illegal activity.

[The Director]

Anyone who is selling "high cap magazines" for use as spare parts is not very smart and will be banned from calguns for illegal activity.

Aren't there a variety of people around who are doing this? What about the guy that was selling magpul 20 rounders with instructions on how to make them into ten rounders? The purpose was legitimate, but what came in the mail was a disassembled 20 round mag!!!!! see what I mean?

I was led to this forum in my desire to buy a 1919. I'd read numerous quotes like "don't ever let them see you with more than 10 links assembled at the range"

My natural reflex response was...why - how do they know they aren't preban! How do they know? They don't!

Now I've never personally done this, but I just felt the question far too compelling.

[The Director]

I should add that where the rubber meets the road, the worst thing it seems you could get from buying hi cap mags in california is being banned from Calguns.

What a stupid, infantile law they've managed to pass.

[sorensen440]

Aren't there a variety of people around who are doing this? What about the guy that was selling magpul 20 rounders with instructions on how to make them into ten rounders? The purpose was legitimate, but what came in the mail was a disassembled 20 round mag!!!!! see what I mean?

I was led to this forum in my desire to buy a 1919. I'd read numerous quotes like "don't ever let them see you with more than 10 links assembled at the range"

My natural reflex response was...why - how do they know they aren't preban! How do they know? They don't!

Now I've never personally done this, but I just felt the question far too compelling.

I have yet to see anyone selling "Hi Cap" magazines

parts kits to repair or to build 10 rounders are perfectly legal