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  • Santa Cruz Armory
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4357

    *Need Info* FFL07 Local requirements

    So I'm interested in obtaining my FFL07 to build and possibly sell a few guns. It may lead into a bit of custom smithing, finishing blah, blah, blah.

    I sent off for the paperwork from the BATFE. I received it yesterday but it doesn't have any suggestions or instructions as to what is needed on a local level.

    Can anyone steer me in the right direction as to what I may need? FYI: I'm in Santa Cruz County.

    Thanks!
    WWW.SANTACRUZARMORY.COM
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44682

    After Feds, you need CA license see PC 12085/86
    (2) No license shall be granted by the department unless and until the applicant presents proof that he or she has all of the following:

    (A) A valid license to manufacture firearms issued pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code.

    (B) Any regulatory or business license, or licenses, required by local government.

    (C) A valid seller's permit or resale certificate issued by the State Board of Equalization, if applicable.

    (D) A certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 12071.
    Call the county and ask about new businesses. They're usually happy to let you pay for new licenses, and Planning can help you with zoning laws and such.
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    • #3
      NeoWeird
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 3342

      Wait a minute....

      So the ATF has to issue you your 07 license first. Correct? So you could be a licensed 07 FFL and NOT be licensed to sell in California, correct?

      So what happens if you want to prototype firearms and not sell them commercially? Can you get your 07 manufacturer's license and create protoypes without dealing with CA DOJ since you wouldn't be entering into a commercial sales with the license?
      quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. - Lucius Annaeus
      a sword never kills anybody; it's a tool in the killer's hand.

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      • #4
        FreedomIsNotFree
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 3657

        Originally posted by NeoWeird
        Wait a minute....

        So the ATF has to issue you your 07 license first. Correct? So you could be a licensed 07 FFL and NOT be licensed to sell in California, correct?

        So what happens if you want to prototype firearms and not sell them commercially? Can you get your 07 manufacturer's license and create protoypes without dealing with CA DOJ since you wouldn't be entering into a commercial sales with the license?
        My understanding is you won't get the 07 FFL unless you have local approval...meaning CLEO if you live in a city, Sheriff if you dont. You wont get local approval unless you meet local city/county regulations to such things as zoning. I never completed the process, but this was the info I was able to gather.
        It is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong. -Voltaire

        Good people sleep peaceably in their bed at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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        • #5
          OCArmory
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 1321

          Ok quick break down.
          1) Local business license. Some require you to have your FFL 1st that sucks.
          2) resale license. These are from the Board of equalization no problem getting one.
          3)FFL Longest thing to wait for.
          4)California centralized list
          5)Any local firearms permit (usuallly from local CLEO) If none is needed you need a letter stating that.
          Once you receive your FFL you have 30 days to mail proof to the feds that you have complied with all local laws. These are business licenses so you have to make a profit in some way shape or form.

          Just a side note did you already receive you FFL in the mail? Your examiner should have gone over this stuff with you.
          Mike

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          • #6
            SJgunguy24
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2008
            • 14849

            No, he got the license app. Santa Cruz county..........I think they would rather have you grow a pot plantation than build guns. That place is backwards, not as bad as San Francisco.........yet. Remember that guy who torched S.L.V.H.S. library only got 1 year.
            There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
            The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
            The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
            The others, well......they just never learn.

            "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
            Patrick Henry.

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            • #7
              Ding126
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 4393

              you may have to have a commercial building as well. BATF wants to be able to stop buy to say hi now and then. I don't think it's something to do out of your garage.
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              • #8
                Santa Cruz Armory
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 4357

                Originally posted by OCArmory
                Just a side note did you already receive you FFL in the mail? Your examiner should have gone over this stuff with you.
                Mike
                No, I just received the 07 application from BATFE. It was just the application papers, fingerprint cards and fingerprint card instructions. Crap! what county agency do I contact to get all this stuff started??

                Originally posted by Ding126
                you may have to have a commercial building as well. BATF wants to be able to stop buy to say hi now and then. I don't think it's something to do out of your garage.
                I hope not. I was going to use my shop (detached) as the "business" location.
                Last edited by Santa Cruz Armory; 09-23-2008, 9:07 PM.
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                • #9
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44682

                  Originally posted by BLFD1
                  what county agency do I contact to get all this stuff started??
                  If you are in county rather than any city, contact SC Co Planning Department to start. http://www.co.santa-cruz.ca.us/ (in my previous post, the word "Planning" referred to the Department, not the general activity )

                  See also http://www.santacruzpl.org/ref/scbus.shtml
                  and http://www.calgold.ca.gov/Results1.a...TY=44&CITY=378
                  Last edited by Librarian; 09-23-2008, 10:24 PM.
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