Is it legal to shoot from a boat?

[deckhandmike]

There was some morons I think just last summer shooting rifles off Catalina they could hear him or see him on the Eagles camera

Why are they morons? It?s legal to shoot on and off Catalina.

[OCEquestrian]

I'm not going to go into any details of how I know this, but a few exciting things can happen if someone on shore hears a bunch of .308 fire from just over 4 miles offshore. I'm sure it was some freak mixture of conditions that allowed it to be heard, but the radios got really busy for a short while, and there may have been some explaining to do...

I'm not going to say how I know this but the same can be said of 5.56 fire.

[RickD427]

I'm not going to go into any details of how I know this, but a few exciting things can happen if someone on shore hears a bunch of .308 fire from just over 4 miles offshore. I'm sure it was some freak mixture of conditions that allowed it to be heard, but the radios got really busy for a short while, and there may have been some explaining to do...

I'm not going to say how I know this but the same can be said of 5.56 fire.

Those are exactly the kinds of situations that a VHF Channel 16 Securite broadcast is designed to cover.

The idea is that any of a number of "Rocket Scientists" listening to the radio traffic recognize the location of the gunfire as being the same as in the Securite broadcast. Then everyone gets back to normal.

[divingin]

Id like to see video of someone shooting skeet from a moving platform like a boat. Not just up and down, but side to side too. Good luck. I read somewhere that skeet shooting was offered on big cruise ships.

Trap shooting. Skeet would involve too many throwers.

[saki302]

I remember in 'the old days' they had trap shooting on some cruise ships. I was too young to do it at the time.

-Dave

[buttfish]

Have you seen the size of a halibut? 75 lbs and up can snap your ankle; some carry pistols, others carry shotguns to dispatch the beast.

[BB1776]

Israel’s Navy shooting from boats at the Hamas swim team:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=65&v=lAHyvTE1BOE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww-businessinsider-com.cdn.ampproject.org%2F&source_ve_path=MTM5MTE3LDIzODUx&feature=emb_title

[OCEquestrian]

Israel?s Navy shooting from boats a Hamas swimmers:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...ture=emb_title

I LOVE watching Hamas fighters being killed!!!!

[BrokerB]

Wow... in days past that was a war crime. I wouldn't save a swimming suicide bomber as well though. Fish in a barrel.

[OCEquestrian]

Wow... in days past that was a war crime. I wouldn't save a swimming suicide bomber as well though. Fish in a barrel.

Nope...an enemy combatant in the water conducting a combat operation is fair game.

[RickD427]

Wow... in days past that was a war crime. I wouldn't save a swimming suicide bomber as well though. Fish in a barrel.

Where do you see a war crime in this? So long as the enemy fails to clearly indicate an intent to surrender, they remain a lawful target.

Nope...an enemy combatant in the water conducting a combat operation is fair game.

Yup

[BrokerB]

In ww2 when US/Jap/German/Brits/ etc were floating in water after their ship had been blown up they were, vast majority of the time, rescued. YEs Japanese murdered almost everyone, if you were on super secret mission/ in u boat areas, you dont stop to pick up.

To say seaman would abandon other sailors to drown is disingenuous. The footage on my end was very low quality or blurred. Looked like a few heads bobbing up and down. I cant see rifles sticking out, explosive vest/grenades in the bobing hamas heads...I would assume they were giving past history, but it sure looks like killing helpless people in the middle of the ocean.

How could you see their " clear intent to surrender or not" in that video?

[RickD427]

In ww2 when US/Jap/German/Brits/ etc were floating in water after their ship had been blown up they were, vast majority of the time, rescued. YEs Japanese murdered almost everyone, if you were on super secret mission/ in u boat areas, you dont stop to pick up.

To say seaman would abandon other sailors to drown is disingenuous. The footage on my end was very low quality or blurred. Looked like a few heads bobbing up and down. I cant see rifles sticking out, explosive vest/grenades in the bobing hamas heads...I would assume they were giving past history, but it sure looks like killing helpless people in the middle of the ocean.

How could you see their " clear intent to surrender or not" in that video?

Assault swimmers are not helpless people bobbing in the water as would be the case with sailors who have survived a ship's sinking. Assault swimmers swim to attack their targets, and they swim away from a completed mission so that they can do the same thing on a different day. That makes them targets on both sides of their journey.

War is the epitome of unfairness. Any doubt as to the existence of a "clear intent to surrender" gets resolved in favor of the intent not being clearly shown.

In my "Law of Armed Conflict" course at the Naval War College, the prof spoke on the subject of parachutists and pointed out that the consensus of belief was that an attacking paratrooper was clearly a target all of the way to the ground, and also on the ground, but that a crewmember parachuting from a disabled aircraft was not a lawful target until on the ground and having an opportunity to surrender. The difference being that the paratrooper presented a clear risk of harm. The surviving crewmember lost their lethality when they lost their combat aircraft (allowing that they may have retained a personal small arm when escaping) and the risk of military harm from a single (or small number of survivors) was negligible. The same point applies to your example of surviving sailors. That example led to the question "What if you only see the parachutist descending from a cloud bank and you don't know nothing about the aircraft". The prof turned that one over to the class and the near-unanimous verdict was "target."

[Carcassonne]

People duck hunt from boats.

There is a (California?) law that says you can't shoot over a body of water.

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[Carcassonne]

... Japanese murdered almost everyone, if you were on super secret mission/ in u boat areas, you dont stop to pick up.

To say seaman would abandon other sailors to drown is disingenuous....

You have no proof Japanese murdered almost everyone. Pappy Boyington was picked up by Japanese after he got shot down. He survived the war. He wasn't murdered. Numerous other prisoners of the Japanese survived the war. If the Japanese murdered almost everyone, why were there so many prisoners alive after the war?

The British routinely killed German sailors.

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