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  • Krayzcolt
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 166

    Is it legal to shoot from a boat?

    Can I take out a sailboat and do some target/skeet shooting?
  • #2
    Bangzoom
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2012
    • 6754

    I was thinking about this too but using floating targets ....fishing and shooting at the same time

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    • #3
      teg33
      Veteran Member
      • May 2013
      • 3441

      Interesting, tagged

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      • #4
        billybob_jcv
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 1507

        Go 12 nautical miles offshore and you are no longer in the USA, let alone California.


        Edit: Corrected by more knowledgeable people below - you still have to follow US law on a US ship even when you are in Int'l waters.

        My niece would be so ashamed - she's in the Coast Guard...
        Last edited by billybob_jcv; 09-18-2014, 6:44 PM.
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        • #5
          Dano3467
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2013
          • 7381

          Did you mean Ocean ?

          Not to sure about the target shooting thing, sounds like trouble.

          But when hunting, in a boat, motor off boat not moving, (lake) and of course in a non prohibited area, I believe your GTG, at least in my area...

          Idk about So Cal, could be a big problem IMO...

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          • #6
            Ronin2
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 5563

            Twelve miles out and you are good but be careful, water can do strange things to bullets (deflection). You really need to be ABSOLUTELY certain of what's around you, esp what's behind where you are shooting and do NOT shoot in the direction of land.
            Last edited by Ronin2; 09-18-2014, 9:58 AM.

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            • #7
              robcoe
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2010
              • 8685

              Originally posted by Krayzcolt
              Can I take out a sailboat and do some target/skeet shooting?
              If you are far enough out yes, though have someone stand by the radio and/or announce over it you will be shooting.

              Gunshots are used as a distress signal on the ocean so expect someone to ask questions.
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              • #8
                Spyder
                CGN Contributor
                • Mar 2008
                • 16841

                Gonna collect the target fragments when you're done?

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                • #9
                  basalt
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 172

                  Pretty sure in CA (I don't know about anywhere else) you cannot shoot over/across ANY body of water. Shotshells may be different.

                  EDIT: Trying a little more research and this may be limited to NF regs...
                  Last edited by basalt; 09-18-2014, 8:53 AM.

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                  • #10
                    kayaker
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1011

                    Years ago I called F&G to ask about hunting on Lake Shasta from a canoe. I was told; If the boat has a motor then the motor can't be running and the boat can't have any foreword motion from the motor. You can paddle all you want. You can legally shoot from a boat, safety rules all in effect.

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                    • #11
                      VictorFranko
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13737

                      Having shot off a small boat (41 foot) and somewhat larger boat (82 foot) many times while in the CG, I can tell you one thing to be careful of: your projectiles will ricochet or "skip" across the top of the water very easily and carry much further than you may think.
                      The smaller the boat, usually the lower you are to the water which creates less of an angle to your target, which increases the chance of your projectiles skipping.
                      Larger boats, you are usually shooting in more of a downward angle resulting in less skipping.

                      It is fun trying to time your shot so that both your boat and your target are on the high of their respective swells, and quite a bit harder than you might imagine.



                      Originally posted by robcoe
                      Gunshots are used as a distress signal on the ocean so expect someone to ask questions.
                      In four years of working search and rescue on the ocean, never heard of gunshots being used as a distress signal. Flares, yes, gunshots, no.

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                      • #12
                        newair
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 226

                        Bullets skip across the water, just like skipping a rock. Only much much more velocity.
                        Really not a good idea.

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                        • #13
                          FIRSTGUN
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 110

                          Gun shot once per minute - distress signal
                          12+ nm from the shore - OK
                          Paper plates as targets - OK
                          Can not see any boat in the direction you are shooting - OK

                          Do not shoot the shore......

                          Or just go to Alaska

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                          • #14
                            RickD427
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 9259

                            Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                            Go 12 nautical miles offshore and you are no longer in the USA, let alone California.
                            Billybob,

                            This is not actually correct.

                            If you're on a boat that is registered in a U.S. state, or is USCG documented, then you're subject to U.S. law on the high seas, all of the way up to another country's 12 mile limit. Please refer to 18 USC 7.

                            Having said that, there is no U.S. federal law that prohibits the simple discharge of a firearm from a vessel. I'm not familiar with Fish and Game statutes covering inland waters. There is no California state law that prohibits the simple discharge of a firearm from vessels on the ocean. Penal Code section 246.3 would make such shooting unlawful (a felony) if is was done in a reckless manner.

                            I've done a great number of small arms exercises from Coast Guard vessels in the waters off California. It's not a big deal if done safely. Range control is a big issue. Previous posters have accurately stated the propensity of rounds to skip over water. You may want to consider a "securite" broadcast on VHF Channel 16. Gunfire at 1 minute intervals is a recognized distress signal. Making a false distress signal is a crime. The broadcast would pretty much stop folks from construing your shooting as a distress signal. It may also be wise to make a telephone report to the controlling Coast Guard Sector. That can help them "connect the dots" if they get a call and may help prevent them from launching a response that isn't needed.
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                            • #15
                              dozer wright
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2764

                              We have in the past find floating debris log or what not and use the flip style targets that stake into the ground. Just be very careful of direction.. And surroundings . If shooting against shore make it steep for backstop

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