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  • #16
    003
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3436




    Speer 9mm Luger (9x19) ammo for sale at AmmoToGo.com - Don't miss these 20 round packs of 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow-Point (JHP) ammunition in-stock now.


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    • #17
      TrailerparkTrash
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4249

      Originally posted by sunrisefordrene
      LASO went to M&P 9mm..With modern loads, I don't see why not. And with cheaper ammo, maybe can acually train???
      LASD went to a 9mm nearly three decades ago. That's an old story and its nothing new. About 14 years ago, they authorized the .45ACP as an optional carry round. Deputies can choose between a 9mm or .45 ACP.
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      • #18
        CGT80
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 2981

        The other day, I noticed that one of my clients had an M&P duty gun rather than whatever steel (as far as I recall) gun he always had before. He is LA Sheriffs. He said he likes the new gun but is getting used to the different trigger. He thinks the different backstraps available for it were one of the reasons the department chose it. I like the looks of the M&P. I thought his was 40 cal, but it may very well have been 9mm.

        His knife collection is something else. He gets all the fun toys. We just get to sharpen them. From what our client has said, LA Sheriffs tries to stay on top of equipment and training, at least for the specialized parts of the force. It sounds like his group is prepared for movie/tv type scenarios and they train to be able to handle anything thrown at them, or departments in nearby states. It is interesting to hear about their training and some of the custom built vehicles. It seems his firearms are more about business than being a hobby, for him, so we don't dwell on firearm usage all that much when BSing.

        9mm has the capacity and lower recoil advantages so I could understand them going for it, with modern ammo. I shoot 40 the most and for competition and I will shoot 9mm and 45 for fun, along with a whole bunch of others. I don't use firearms on a professional level, so I can't say which one is best, if there is even a best.
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        • #19
          CK_32
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          • Sep 2010
          • 14369

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          • #20
            MrElectric03
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 1590

            Makes sense to me, I've shot with Leo's that can't shoot well with .40s but get pretty decent groups with 9mm guns but still have to carry the .40 because it's bigger and the what if you have to shoot this guy on pcp BS. You may as well eject the bullets and throw them at the guy if you can't hit your target.
            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
            We must be on calguns...

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            • #21
              POINTMANDDT
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 2530

              Originally posted by MrElectric03
              Makes sense to me, I've shot with Leo's that can't shoot well with .40s but get pretty decent groups with 9mm guns but still have to carry the .40 because it's bigger and the what if you have to shoot this guy on pcp BS. You may as well eject the bullets and throw them at the guy if you can't hit your target.

              ^^^same here it's amazing how many of them don't take their handgun accuracy seriously. I shot with a LEO that was hitting dirt 10 yards in front of him on the 15 yard range. It was a .40 cal pistol. Modern day 9mm JHP have more than enough stopping power to get the job done. Lastly, as many have stated, how powerful a round is means nothing if you can't consistently hit your target.

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              • #22
                1CavScout
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 3234

                My former agency is currently replacing the Gen3 G22's with Gen4 G22's. I don't think they will be switching to 9mm, and it's a large agency. The agency has never carried 9mm in it's history as an issue duty weapon.

                BTW, in the two shootings I was involved in, there were no rounds that missed.
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                • #23
                  john67elco
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3155

                  San Bernardino sheriff dept choose 9 or 45
                  Originally posted by Gwalker99
                  ""Calgunners couldn't wait to start falling all over themselves as to how to best comply""


                  half of you here are weak and lame that will basically wind up being happy with .22 single shot pistols or single barrel shotguns..

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                  • #24
                    toby
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 10576

                    Originally posted by GW
                    Its less expensive to miss with?
                    Well said.

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                    • #25
                      Ralston
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 543

                      I currently carry my personally owned Glock 21. Agency is switching to the M&P (soon?) I'll be going with the 9mm when we ever get them. A coworker bought his own and it's much lighter for him on his belt.

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                      • #26
                        repo4sale
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1438

                        At Los Angeles Burro Canyon Calguns monthly shoot I push guys to practice hitting big Rocks @ 160 yards with 22 9 40 357! They are amazed at how easy it is if you practice!

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                        • #27
                          CBR_rider
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2765

                          Originally posted by FromTheGrave
                          How long is the "life cycle" of agency firearms?
                          Depends.... if I HAD to put it out a number I'd go with ten years.
                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                          Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                          • #28
                            Zekethedog
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 68

                            The author said, "one article I read stated about a police department in Sioux Falls, SD," come on Sioux Falls as an example of a massive LEO switch back to 9MM.

                            I haven't heard of any agencies changing back to 9MM.

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                            • #29
                              CAGLS
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 3753

                              Originally posted by GW
                              Its less expensive to miss with?
                              In this case it was more expensive to miss since the two ladies received 4.2 million dollars.

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                              • #30
                                FromTheGrave
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 646

                                Originally posted by repo4sale
                                At Los Angeles Burro Canyon Calguns monthly shoot I push guys to practice hitting big Rocks @ 160 yards with 22 9 40 357! They are amazed at how easy it is if you practice!

                                JohnJasonChun.Com


                                Originally posted by Zekethedog
                                The author said, "one article I read stated about a police department in Sioux Falls, SD," come on Sioux Falls as an example of a massive LEO switch back to 9MM.

                                I haven't heard of any agencies changing back to 9MM.
                                I posted 2 articles. Have you read the thread?

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