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  • #16
    SuperSet
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2007
    • 9048

    Sorry man, I don't understand what you're asking. The reticle is composed of tons of little dots so it's going to be more pronounced under magnification. And you're correct, the outer circle covers 65 inches at 100 yds, with or without the magnifier.

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    • #17
      desrt2
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 319

      Yeah. That's it.
      I just got an idea, I will place it in front of my AimPoint Comp and see if it's useful for a red dot.
      Since the dot is 1 MOA, the magnifier will probably work out.
      Thank you for your patience SS.
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      • #18
        SuperSet
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2007
        • 9048

        BTW, the AimPoint dots are even larger, ranging from 2MOA to 4MOA. So, you're probably not going to like how large and distorted those dots become under magnification.
        I also hope that you know that the EOTech's 65MOA dot is really for close quarters use so under magnification, you should be using the 1MOA dot or bullet drop dots, if you have that model.

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        • #19
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          I'm not sure what you are saying either.

          In the EOTech, there is a 1 MOA dot in the center of the 65 MOA ring...are you saying you only have the ring appearing on your screen?

          The 1 MOA dot is for fine work and the 65 MOA ring is for faster alignment on a closer target...the ring also has pips at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions for compensated shots
          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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          • #20
            desrt2
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 319

            For the OP. Hope this helps some.

            Eotech XPS3-0 with MBUIS co-witnessed



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech magnifier flipped to side MBUIS retracted



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech magnifier flipped to side Troy mmicro BUIS no co-witness



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech FTS Magnifier flipped MBUIS co-witnessed



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech FTS Magnifier no BUIS



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech magnifier flipped to side MBUIS retracted



            Eotech XPS3-0 with Eotech magnifier over Troy micro BUIS retracted.

            Last edited by desrt2; 09-08-2014, 9:43 PM.
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            • #21
              SuperSet
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2007
              • 9048

              Hmmm.. that looks like the EXPS 2-0. The reason why I mention it is that it has an integral riser. You'll need to put the riser on your magnifier too and your pic looks like your magnifier is bumping up against your BUIS. I think that's the earlier EOTech magnifier, the G23. Did you put the riser underneath it?

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              • #22
                desrt2
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 319

                I checked my cheek weld and I have to put my nose right against the charging handle but somehow about 1 1/2 inch behind the ocular lens. It's not comfortable/repeatable for me personally.

                Adding a chee riser may prevent you from seeing thru BUIS.

                Training back in 1987 with the M16A2 (standard carrying handle iron sights), you placed your nose on the charging handle to maintain the same sight picture every time. I don't know if it's the same method with the M4's and the ACOG.

                I prefer having the holo sight midway. I think it's generally referred to as the "scout" rifle placement.
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                • #23
                  SuperSet
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 9048

                  No, there's a 7mm riser that comes with the G23 magnifier. If you use an XPS 2-0 EOTech, you don't need the riser. If you use an EXPS, you need to use the riser. Otherwise, the magnifier will sit too low to align with the EOTech window. Make sense?

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                  • #24
                    Matt_yz125
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                    • Nov 2013
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                    • #25
                      Matt_yz125
                      Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 108



                      So I think I figured it out. I had my Magpul rear sight flipped wrong so the flip was on the side closest to me. so I ran out of rail when it was the other way.

                      after flipping it around and moving the magnifier up one spot I can clear everything. I don't have a solid rail across the top and theres a gap so I can't move the EXPS3-0 out anymore so my upper rail is kind of cluttered now. but at least I can clear my magnifier and I have my iron sights and red dot and magnifier all at the same time now
                      Last edited by Matt_yz125; 09-08-2014, 10:39 PM.

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                      • #26
                        desrt2
                        Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 319

                        From my Sport Optics receipt:
                        EOTech Gen II 3X Magnifier & Mount - Tan
                        3X Magnifier w/ Flip-To-Side Mount & 7mm Riser
                        The riser is an ARMS mount. Maybe Eotech used ARMS or maybe the retailer put the 2 together.

                        The holo sight is an EXPS3-0 integrated QD lever. I still have the case with the info.
                        The reticle is a circle and dot.

                        Beyond that, I'm not knowledgeable.

                        Yeah the bottom of the magnifier is right on top of the BUIS with a paper width of clearance.

                        After reading your response I moved the sight forward, away from the magnifier and it didn't have a negative effect on the co-witness or reticle.

                        The magnifier is lower than the center of the sight. I took it off, raised it up towards center with my hand and it doesn't make much difference - as fas as I can tell without going to the range. The reticle just appears to be maybe 3-5 mm low.

                        Originally posted by SuperSet
                        Hmmm.. that looks like the EXPS 2-0. The reason why I mention it is that it has an integral riser. You'll need to put the riser on your magnifier too and your pic looks like your magnifier is bumping up against your BUIS. I think that's the earlier EOTech magnifier, the G23. Did you put the riser underneath it?
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                        • #27
                          Matt_yz125
                          Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 108

                          Originally posted by desrt2
                          From my Sport Optics receipt:
                          EOTech Gen II 3X Magnifier & Mount - Tan
                          3X Magnifier w/ Flip-To-Side Mount & 7mm Riser
                          The riser is an ARMS mount. Maybe Eotech used ARMS or maybe the retailer put the 2 together.

                          The holo sight is an EXPS3-0 integrated QD lever. I still have the case with the info.
                          The reticle is a circle and dot.

                          Beyond that, I'm not knowledgeable.

                          Yeah the bottom of the magnifier is right on top of the BUIS with a paper width of clearance.

                          After reading your response I moved the sight forward, away from the magnifier and it didn't have a negative effect on the co-witness or reticle.

                          The magnifier is lower than the center of the sight. I took it off, raised it up towards center with my hand and it doesn't make much difference - as fas as I can tell without going to the range. The reticle just appears to be maybe 3-5 mm low.
                          My G23 came with the 7mm ARMS riser as well. it clears my Magpul rear sight by a lot, you can see it in the photo.

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                          • #28
                            SuperSet
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 9048

                            Yeah, you'll want to use that 7mm riser, since you're using an EXPS model.

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                            • #29
                              Matt_yz125
                              Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 108

                              mine sits a lot higher then his does.

                              its almost flush with the top of the red dot

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                              • #30
                                SuperSet
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 9048

                                Yours looks correct, same as mine, except I have the G33. There should be space between the magnifier bottom and the rear sight.

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