Question about eotech magnifier, please help

[Matt_yz125]

Hey guys.

I just got a G23 magnifier from another member on here and I installed it today but Im looking around the user manual and it doesn't say how far back or forward to mound it and how close or far apart the two should be?

I have it mounted as close to my rear flip up sight as possible and the magnifier and red dot are mounted as close as possible..

the question; When I look though the magnifier I am only getting a very small view circle with a lot of black around the outside. How can I make it bigger? it seems like the closer I get to the magnifier the better the picture is but I have to be about 2 inches from the magnifier to get the best picture?

Please help. thank you very much.

Matt

[bigbully]

What your talking about is called eye relief. The distance the magnifier should be from your eye doesn't change no matter where it's located.

[TKM]

In the instructions it will list a number of things. One of them is eye relief, IIRC 2.2 inches.

For best results set it up so that you are comfortable on the stock and it is 2.2 inches in front of your eye. Then set everything else up from there.

[Matt_yz125]

OK. thanks for the info. Ill adjust it and retry

[SuperSet]

FWIW, I often run without the rear sight when running a magnifier, since the eye relief is so short. This will buy you another rear slot to move it closer to your eye. Or you can get a magnifier with longer eye relief.

[Matt_yz125]

Yea, I had to remove the rear sight to get it to where it needs to be. Question, with the EXPS3-0, if you take the sight off and move it forward or backwards on the rail do you have to re zero it? or should it retain zero? just wondering because if I decide to go back to the rear iron sight and take off the magnifier will I have to zero it out each time?

[SuperSet]

The zero will change, if you change slots on the rail.

[9mmepiphany]

Yup, moving the EOTech back and forth will change your POI...you'll have to re-zero

[Matt_yz125]

OK, thank you very much. Ill zero the eotech so in a spot where I won't have to move it and can swap from magnifier back to iron sights

[IVth Horseman]

If your eotech is raised, you should get a flip to side mount for the magnifier, the magnifier will sit over the irons and you won't have to remove the magnifier to use em.

I'm not sure how yours is set up, but its with looking into.

[Matt_yz125]

thank you guys for the info, I went to the range today and took the rear sight off because its to tall laid down to clear the magnifier. But I was able to see perfect out of the magnifier and I really like it! thank you guys again for the help. Ill have to look into the smaller rear flip up sight.

[bigbully]

Maybe the Troy micro sights are short enough.

[desrt2]

Troy micro BUIS might do the job but I'm not sure if it will even do a 1/3 co-witness.

I have Magpul MBUIS mounted in the last slot.

The EOTECH FTS magnifyer fits over the sight and directly behind the EXPS 3-0.

I'll write a note to self to try the Troy micro MBUIS I have.

One a side note, I bought the EXPS 3-0 with the EOTECH magnifier thinking it was a great idea.

I didn't think about a fundamental flaw: it magnifies the holographic reticle to like 60 MOA. I thought something went wrong with the sight until the dim bulb lit up in my head.

Maybe that's not an issue for some but from my perspective, it defeats the purpose of the magnifier.

It would have worked out with a red for that is 1 MOA though.

That's a $550 lesson. I don't recall if I didn't address the issue right away to have returned it or what but it's too late.

I could have bought an Aimpoint Comp or Micro for that much.

I might sell it if I can recover a reasonable amount.

[SuperSet]

A magnifier doesn't change the MOA. Both the reticle and the target is magnified so the relationship stays the same. 1MOA and 65MOA remain 1MOA and 65MOA, despite the range.

[desrt2]

I see what you're saying. Makes sense.
So using the holo sight on a 100 yard target - without the magnifier - the reticle itself appears to be magnified to about 65 MOA. My understanding: covers 65" of target at 100 yards away.
It also shows the scattered defraction grid causing a super-fuzzy reticle.
From Eotech:
"Reticle Appears Fuzzy" and related, "Reticle Has a Halo Effect or More Than 1 Reticle is Visible"
Maybe I'm having 2 separate issues.
I may have to take a picture to demonstrate what I'm seeing. Not sure if I'm communicating right.
I would be so glad if I'm wrong and didn't waist $550.
I'm probably totally wrong in my explanation but bottom line is it doesn't work for me.
Additional information; I have 20/20 vision but far sighted. I wear progressive lens glasses but haven't tried looking thru the magnifier with them on.
I'm not an optometrist, just optimistic...