the "Powder Log"...WTF?

[essjay]

[comment regarding Targetmasters requiring a CDL and a form to purchase a cleaning kit]

[ChrisC]

A lot of cities have that as an ordinance. Nothing new, I've seen it for years in certain cities.

[meeestirg]

Turners recording personal information for powder purchases?

sorry if this a dupe.

i was told yesterday from a turners employee that ALL turners locations are recording your DL or ID information and amount purchased for gun powder and black powder purchases.

[CK_32]

I think it's a new BS bill in certain areas to record powder records/sales.


I'm not sure I just saw a few threads of people talking about it.

[Neanderthal]

Did that to me once. Never been back for anything ever again. Hey ! Turners remember me ? Your former customer.

[jtake]

See California Health and Safety Code section 12102.1 (adopted circa 1970):

12102.1. Any person who sells, gives, delivers or otherwise
disposes of 20 pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or
less of black sporting powder, shall first obtain a statement from
the person who purchases or otherwise receives such powder, which
statement shall include:
(a) The name, address and birth date of the person purchasing or
receiving the powder.
(b) The purpose for which the powder is intended to be used,
handled, stored, or possessed.
(c) The type and amount of the powder.
(d) The signature of the person purchasing or receiving the
powder.
(e) The driver's license number, selective service card number, or
other identifying information concerning the person purchasing or
receiving the powder.
Any person furnishing a fictitious name or address or knowingly
furnishing an incorrect birth date and any person violating any of
the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.

[meeestirg]

so if we buy 21lbs of powder or more our information is not recorded?

See California Health and Safety Code section 12102.1 (adopted circa 1970):

12102.1. Any person who sells, gives, delivers or otherwise
disposes of 20 pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or
less of black sporting powder, shall first obtain a statement from
the person who purchases or otherwise receives such powder, which
statement shall include:
(a) The name, address and birth date of the person purchasing or
receiving the powder.
(b) The purpose for which the powder is intended to be used,
handled, stored, or possessed.
(c) The type and amount of the powder.
(d) The signature of the person purchasing or receiving the
powder.
(e) The driver's license number, selective service card number, or
other identifying information concerning the person purchasing or
receiving the powder.
Any person furnishing a fictitious name or address or knowingly
furnishing an incorrect birth date and any person violating any of
the provisions of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor.

[_TomT_]

In all honestly I think it has more to do with people creating a bomb of some sort than reloading. That being said Turner's have always been boot lickers in my opinion, yes I sometimes shop there when they have decent prices on ammo when Big 5 and Walmart is out.

[RickD427]

so if we buy 21lbs of powder or more our information is not recorded?

If you buy 21 pounds of powder or more, you need to get a permit from the Fire Marshal. That's gonna take a lot more than just recording your personal information.

[toby]

They can only take it if you give it.

[SMarquez]

Halbrooks Guns in Fontana requires ID bit they have pretty decent powder prices. Bullet Barn in Upland, no ID requirement, I just bought 2 lbs.

[mycrstuff]

San Diego used to have a log. Not sure if they still do. I had to fill out the log about 10 years ago when buying gun powder at the Del Mar gun show.

[krwada]

Purchasing smokeless powder in California

Just go and purchase your powder at the gun show.

1. It is cheaper, (no HAZMAT fees)
2. There are no logs or records to sign
3. The prices are generally better than at your CA LGS

This is what currently do. The Miwall Corporation sells a lot of components at the SF Crossroads gun show.

[Gryff]

My guess is that its a city/county thing.. Alameda Co is pretty much full-retard when it comes to firearms.. Walmart cant won't even sell ammo.

FIFY. Walmart can sell ammo in Alameda County. They just need to grow a pair of balls.