Need help about legalitys of ffl transfers

[stix213]

If I was Kings, I'd be tempted to tell the OP he is banned from the store, and then in a few weeks (when I feel like getting around to it, cause I'm busy with actual customers and all you know) I'd ship it back to the sender. Let the sender deal with this mess.

[BlooDSMeaR]

OK by your logic :
I need a motor put into my car. I talk to a shop and the quote me x amount. You arrange to get the car there. shortly after you dropped it off, you find another shop that will do the labor for a significant amount less. The original shop has not started work on it. You tell that shop your going to take it some where else. What would you owe the original shop? Or do you suck it up and pay X amount because you "already made the deal"

That's more an ethics issue to me. I wouldn't owe the shop I first took it to because he hasn't done any work yet. Its right there sitting right where you droped it off at.

Its not that I like being a "cheap skate" With my amount of income vs bills I get very little of funds for myself as "pleasure" money. When I had that good job that the company closed my division in 08, before that I never thought twice about spending $20.00 bucks. Hell I even left $20.00 tips for a $12.00 tab for people at restaurants, when I got good service. In my current situation I have to count every penny I get.

[stix213]

And to note I did do the transfer at Kings GC. After talking to Justin, he did cut a deal closer to what I would have saved. Thank you KGC.

There was no commitment, or contract to do the deal at his shop. As a lot of people would like to point out.

Hows this :
You go to a car dealer and can get a car for 10k, you went home and thought about it for a night or two (didn't do any paper work or make any sort of payment didn't sign a contract to buy that car). Your friend tells you you can get the exact same car over at another car dealer and get the exact same car for 7k Where would you buy it from?

That's completely different since the dealer in this case isn't even the one selling you anything, they are charging for labor only, of which you already had them do half the job before you even mentioned you want to cancel but still do some more free work and oh hey how about throw in some free shipping to boot!

It is more like what if you found a car in the UK that you wanted, then arranged for it to be shipped to a dealer in CA who would charge a nominal fee for helping make the arrangements. Then after the dealer receives the car you go and walk in and say there is another dealer in the next town that is $25 cheaper, so please forget about our deal and for free ship the car to the other dealer.

[vintagearms]

Ladies and Gentlemen, the OP just proved to the gun community why FFL's have the attitude they have. Dealing with asshats like this.

Btw, I'm not an FFL but have seen the least common denominators at the FFL's I shop with to know what they deal with.

[daphonz]

, Ca. sales tax (That shouldn't be paid, because item was bought out of state)

Wrong about this too.

[TRICKSTER]

OK by your logic :
I need a motor put into my car. I talk to a shop and the quote me x amount. You arrange to get the car there. shortly after you dropped it off, you find another shop that will do the labor for a significant amount less. The original shop has not started work on it The car is at the other guys shop. You tell that shop your going to take it some where else. What would you owe the original shop?

You either don't understand or are ignoring the part where he already completed the dealer transfer. The firearm was logged out of the sellers book as being transfered to Kings, not you. Kings then received it and logged it into their book, not yours. Dealer transfer is complete. Having the firearm DROSd to you is a separate part of the transaction.
Did you offer to pay the dealers transfer fee for the work he already completed?

[Pardini]

(I never said I wanted him to do it for free or at his expense) I would have paid for the shipping my items to the other FFL, that was never the issue. It still would have cost me less out of my pocket to ship them over to the other place and do papers than have him do it. What I dint want was to pay shipping back to the sellers out of state, and then having to pay shipping from the 2 different sellers back to the other FFL. When he could have easly sent it to the other FFL in one PKG.
Yes call me a cheap @$$ but in my world I don't make big bucks to give it away. I am a full time min-wage worker with 2 full time jobs a wife and a child. I have to save every chance I can. You would too if you were worried about money.
Sorry guys, every one here seems to think guns are for well off people....

With your attitude, ethics and morals your going to be a minimum wage earner for the rest of your life.

[Baboosh]

OK by your logic :
I need a motor put into my car. I talk to a shop and the quote me x amount. You arrange to get the car there. shortly after you dropped it off, you find another shop that will do the labor for a significant amount less. The original shop has not started work on it The car is at the other guys shop. You tell that shop your going to take it some where else. What would you owe the original shop?

No, it would be more like the shop already did the motor swap but the customer refuses to sign the sales receipt.

The work is done.

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[Flintlock Tom]

OP,
It looks like 99%+ of the responders to your post disagree with you. Perhaps you should reconsider your position.
There are others on Calguns who would rather slink away in silence than admit they might be wrong. You'll find that this is a tough way to go through life.
I was a high school teacher for a while, I saw this attitude a lot. Perhaps you'll grow up and get over it?

[BlooDSMeaR]

I am over it, I just wanted him to send my stuff to another dealer. Not once did I say I wanted to have it shipped on his dime. Like the vast majority of every one here seems to think.

I got erked that He would only ship back to the senders and not to his competition who charges a lot less.

Then again if I was losing businesses, I'd be erked too that I was losing the sale. So I can honestly see both sides of the coin.

Bottom line is the items were mine, I bought and paid for them they did not. I can have any one I chose to do the work. If its the same job for half the other guy so be it. WHY DO I HAVE TO OVER PAY?

As it is lesson learned, and I completed my dros paper work with Kings Gun, He got paid, I'll get my stuff I bought and paid for.

I don't see why every one is saying I wanted him to ship it to the other guy for free... I would have gladly paid it. But the conversation never made it that far. Every one just expected me to suck it up. No one is allowed to take advantage of a better offer, no one is allowed to change their minds around here.

[71MUSTY]

Please explane how I hired him to do the job? And if I did hire him don't you have an option to cancel a job if it wasn't done yet? Have you ever changed your mind on any thing revolving around your wallet?

He didn't do that said job, until I went in to do the paper work and papers are done. That is when the job is done. That is when I paid.

The minute he received your weapon from out of state me became the importer. The rest was just the paperwork and payment. Sorry you loose that argument.

[Ron-Solo]

OP! You're not getting it. Quit while you're behind.

[BlooDSMeaR]

With your attitude, ethics and morals your going to be a minimum wage earner for the rest of your life.

Up until 08 I was in the 100k club. Life has a way of changing quick.

[71MUSTY]

OK by your logic :
I need a motor put into my car. I talk to a shop and the quote me x amount. You arrange to get the car there. shortly after you dropped it off, you find another shop that will do the labor for a significant amount less. The original shop has not started work on it. You tell that shop your going to take it some where else. What would you owe the original shop? Or do you suck it up and pay X amount because you "already made the deal"

That's more an ethics issue to me. I wouldn't owe the shop I first took it to because he hasn't done any work yet. Its right there sitting right where you droped it off at.

Its not that I like being a "cheap skate" With my amount of income vs bills I get very little of funds for myself as "pleasure" money. When I had that good job that the company closed my division in 08, before that I never thought twice about spending $20.00 bucks. Hell I even left $20.00 tips for a $12.00 tab for people at restaurants, when I got good service. In my current situation I have to count every penny I get.

WRONG AGAIN.You didn't hire this guy to install anything. You hired him to import something which he did. You act like all he was going to do was paperwork and that was all you were paying him for when in fact you were hiring him to import a weapon into CA and assume all liabilities related to that weapon.

[71MUSTY]

Up until 08 I was in the 100k club. Life has a way of changing quick.

And because your life changed you feel justified to cheat someone else. NICE