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  • #16
    MisplacedTexan
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 706

    Originally posted by Mitch
    I once found a link on that site to all Nevada's gun laws. It was like three pages of laws, that's it.
    I'm afraid to know how long that would be for Kalifornia.

    I bet the full text of say the roster is probbably longer.

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    • #17
      RP1911
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2007
      • 5198

      RP1911
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      • #18
        Grumpyoldretiredcop
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 6437

        OP, buy what your wallet can stand. Enjoy breathing the free air up here!
        I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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        • #19
          VegasND
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2007
          • 8621

          I know a couple of guys here who have them. I hope you've got deep pockets.

          Originally posted by robgon
          ....I really want to get an MP five. Do you guys think I could get one?
          People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
          --River Tam

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          • #20
            RP1911
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2007
            • 5198

            Here you go (in Henderson, NV):

            NFA items such as machine guns, suppressors, short barreled rifles, AOWs, Destructive Devices, etc. - All NFA rules apply.


            or

            NFA items such as machine guns, suppressors, short barreled rifles, AOWs, Destructive Devices, etc. - All NFA rules apply.
            Last edited by RP1911; 08-10-2014, 4:10 PM.
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            • #21
              battleship
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 4962

              Just follow the yellow brick road, OZ is straight ahead.

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              • #22
                sigstroker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2009
                • 19687

                Originally posted by robgon
                I thought this was the case. I just didn't know the exact rules or laws. I really want to get an MP five. Do you guys think I could get one?
                You need a lot of money.

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                • #23
                  BigPimping
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 21459

                  Someday, I will as well.
                  sigpic

                  PIMP stands for Positive Intellectual Motivated Person

                  When pimping begins, friendship ends.

                  Don't let your history be a mystery

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                  • #24
                    ja308
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12660

                    It looks like enough libertarians, democrats and non voters have moved into Nevada to where it is beginning look like California.

                    "In Nevada, a bill to expand background checks made it through the Democratic-controlled Legislature. It would have required background checks for private gun sales and restrictions on sales to the mentally ill. But Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval vetoed the bill."

                    You guys be sure to keep your California politics, in order to screw Nevada like you've screwed California !
                    Last edited by ja308; 08-23-2014, 1:59 PM.

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                    • #25
                      ja308
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 12660

                      Originally posted by Mitch
                      The NFA register of automatic weapons was shut down in 1986 (the Reagan Machine Gun Ban), so automatic weapons are like real estate: they aren't making any more. The tax stamp costs $200 and nine months, but the guns themselves get more expensive every year. M16s are probably the least expensive, at around $10K (remember, there is virtually no physical difference between a $10K M16 and an $800 M&P-15 you can pick up at Turners: the $9,000 difference in cost is due entirely to scarcity).

                      Full auto and other NFA-regulated firearms are freely available in most states in the Union, including Nevada, as long as you have the cash.

                      The Calguns of Nevada is Nevada Shooters. I once found a link on that site to all Nevada's gun laws. It was like three pages of laws, that's it.

                      A little knowledge is a dangerous thing . Why you choose to mislead Calgunners with the title " Reagan machine gun ban " is anyone's guess.
                      Maybe you will be kind enough to explain your error .


                      The bill you incorrectly called the " Reagan machine gun ban" was in reality titled the Firearms Protection Act of 1986 .

                      It's entirely likely that President Reagan was unaware that a New Jersey democrat named Hughes added the " Hughes amendment" at the last minute .
                      In fact only those who were licensed to manufacture NFA guns were aware of this provision .

                      Last edited by ja308; 08-23-2014, 2:28 PM.

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                      • #26
                        LRShooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 553

                        Reagan still signed it and is therefore responsible.

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                        • #27
                          ja308
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12660

                          Originally posted by LRShooter
                          Reagan still signed it and is therefore responsible.

                          No offense pal, but I suggest you try reading a few books on the gun culture !
                          Failing that, try a web search or even the link I provided .

                          Don't tell me ! Let me guess your a transplanted Californian

                          Right to Bear Arms - 1986 - Firearm Owners Protection Act:
                          The McClure-Volkmer Act is also known as the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA). This act is an addition/revision to the Gun Control Act of 1968. To keep things relatively simple, the entire law will not be published here. However, it can be found in the sources below. I am continually gathering additional information on this topic, and will update as I learn more.

                          The origins of this law begin with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF or BATF). The ATF is under the department of the Treasury and is responsible for enforcing all federal gun laws in the United States. In the 1980’s, there was public outcry for the ATF to be held accountable for abuses of power. Congress responded by creating the FOPA. Senator James McClure of Idaho sponsored the FOPA as S49. The goal of the act was increasing gun owner’s rights. Here are the effects of the FOPA in its final version:

                          Opens up interstate sales of long guns, within some limitations. In-person sales can only be to residents of an adjacent state. Other sales must go through an FFL transfer.

                          Allows interstate transport of firearms, provided no local laws are broken in the process.

                          Makes it illegal for anyone to transfer a firearm to a prohibited person. Previously, it was only illegal for dealers to do this.

                          Provides any prohibited persons can get relief of their disability by applying to the Treasury Secretary. This has been repealed in practice by the program being specifically unfunded in the federal budget.

                          It prevents the government from creating a list of gun owners from dealer records.

                          Limits the number of inspections on a dealer by the BATF without a search warrant.

                          Allows FFL holders to engage in business away from their normal business location. I.E. at a gun show.

                          Allows ammunition shipments through the US Postal Service.

                          Ended record keeping on ammunition sales, except for armor piercing or prohibited ammunition such as explosive.

                          Eliminates the FFL requirement for ammunition only dealers.

                          Specifically states that those disposing of personal firearm collections do not need an FFL.

                          To get an FFL, firearms do not have to be a principle business activity.

                          Additionally, the act added laws that don’t necessarily apply to gun owners at all:

                          Adds serious drug offenses to the list of crimes receiving enhanced penalties.

                          There were additional changes that were seen as a “negative” by gun rights activists:

                          Prohibits civilians from possessing full-auto firearms manufactured after May 19, 1986.

                          Redefines 'machine gun' to include those sets of parts or parts that could be used to convert a semiautomatic firearm into a machine gun.

                          Doubles the penalties for use of a machine gun, silencer or muffler in a violent federal felony.

                          Item #1 was the primary one cited by gun rights activists as being a problem. By limiting what guns a civilian can own, they have essentially created a very limited supply situation. Guns such as an M16 that were selling for $700 prior to the act, rose to $25,000 overnight. Other, more rare weapons are even higher.
                          Last edited by ja308; 08-23-2014, 5:49 PM.

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                          • #28
                            LRShooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 553

                            I'm familiar with the act and know how things came about. And I stand by my statement -- Reagan signed it. Nothing you say can change that. Reagan is responsible for it.

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                            • #29
                              ja308
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12660

                              Originally posted by LRShooter
                              I'm familiar with the act and know how things came about. And I stand by my statement -- Reagan signed it. Nothing you say can change that. Reagan is responsible for it.
                              Exactly correct !
                              The NRA was extremely proud of this act and Reagan's signature ! I too am grateful for the signature and the legislation . Trading NFA crap for the benefits obtained was worth it !

                              You should be complaining about the democrat Hughes, who threw in the FA restrictions at the last minute . Now for the sake of discussion, let's say Reagan knew about the " Hughes amendment and refused to sign McClure Volkmer because of it ?
                              How many Calgunners would have praised him ? Answer none ! Because we still would have every abuse that The FOPA was written to correct . I'm guessing 99% of gun owners really don't care that no new civilian machine guns are allowed to be registered .

                              Once again a few malcontent, easily led, easily propagandized Calgunners have much better knowledge on gun rights than the NRA . Or to put it bluntly, no republican is ever good enough ! Isn't that the real issue?




                              Hey Nevada ! Heads Up ! Your about to become California east .
                              Last edited by ja308; 08-23-2014, 6:55 PM.

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                              • #30
                                VegasND
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 8621

                                That's your defense? That Reagan signed bills without knowing what was in them?
                                Originally posted by ja308
                                ...
                                It's entirely likely that President Reagan was unaware that a New Jersey democrat named Hughes added the " Hughes amendment" at the last minute ...
                                Pretty much proves what kind of a supporter of gun Rights you really are.
                                Originally posted by ja308
                                ... Trading NFA crap for the benefits obtained was worth it !
                                ...
                                People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
                                --River Tam

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