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  • 44fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 2399

    Sorry if this was already discussed. I'm not going to read all responses.
    I see it as wearing a seat belt. If you could predict when you were going to be in a crash, you would just clip it on before it happens. Since we realize we can't predict what's going to happen just moments in the future, we try to be ready.
    Do I think some take it to far? Well I don't know everyone's circumstance. Only they can judge and make that decision. I do think it is sad some are so paranoid due to where they live/work they cannot relax enough to enjoy their lives.
    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

    "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"
    -- Thomas Jefferson

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    • d4v0s
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 1661

      Originally posted by CAguy
      I get that. I mean some OC spray or a pocket knife is not unreasonable and would even be considered prudent in many cases (walking/running at night, unknown area ect). I just think some take it too far.

      I also remember a guy carrying on about not being able to carry on school grounds when picking up his kid. Stuff like that just makes us look loony. It's as if the firearm is some kind of force field for crime and the ultimate multi-tool to solve any problem.

      I like to shoot as much as the next man and believe everyone should have a gun for home protection and personal protection when need be but I think the fear culture, scenario/event planning, and constant "on patrol" hunt that many display is quite odd and boarders on crazy/irrational occasionally.

      The danger around every corner, everyone is out to kill you, heightened alert at all times, hyper vigilant at all times folks even when going to the store, picking up your kid, going to work at a desk job, answering the door, ect people just make us look crazy. It's kinda funny most of the time but sometimes it can make you think twice about someone and get a bit concerned about the stability of such thinking.
      Well that is definitely your opinion, I happen to think you are crazy for not being more vigilant.. Seems like you are just trying to project your choices on us for some sort of acceptance. "Hey look at me, I am not as afraid as you, and I don't care if things happen to me".

      Two times I have needed my gun in my life, number 1 was jogging and I usually leave it at home for that. Number 2 was in front of my house while someone tried to steal my youngest brother. Literally broad daylight and it happened in a blink, I am glad I was being paranoid and had it with me while I kicked back on the porch enjoying a snow cone.

      And I just had to laugh at your "we live in some of the safest neighborhoods". Speak for yourself, I am working class, if your not an ******* contractor drunk who beats his wife and is itching to fight people for nothing... Then your a heroin addict in these parts. Go have a real chat with a sheriff from your area, some of the nicer areas have real problems and hush orders to keep tourism/economy flowing.
      Originally posted by Franklincollector
      It was administered with a toothpick and placed on a street taco.

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      • cudakidd
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 3282

        Last I checked being a Big Guy doesn't make you knife and Bullet Proof...
        TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.

        William Butler Yeats 1865-1939

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        • VoR
          Member
          • May 2014
          • 270

          If you think OC is the answer you might read this and imagine if this was your wife or daughter what would have happened.

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          • IVC
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 17594

            Originally posted by cudakidd
            Last I checked being a Big Guy doesn't make you knife and Bullet Proof...
            Does in the movies...
            sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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            • cudakidd
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 3282

              Originally posted by VoR
              If you think OC is the answer you might read this and imagine if this was your wife or daughter what would have happened.

              http://www.corneredcat.com/article/w...wants-me-dead/
              The reason why a 5 Foot 100 Pound woman should carry...and this was a CCW no OC incident...

              Look, I'm not sure why this thread even exists on a ProGun Forum. We eat our own and do nothing but help the Antis with Threads like this.

              If you don't want to carry, if you don't want to have loaded Firearms at your home, fine. But please don't hassle those of us who do. Don't label People you don't know that share your 2nd Amendment right as unstable, crazy, etc.
              Last edited by cudakidd; 07-31-2014, 9:32 AM.
              TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
              The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
              Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
              The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
              The best lack all conviction, while the worst
              Are full of passionate intensity.

              William Butler Yeats 1865-1939

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              • CAguy
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 855

                Seems this thread has gotten off track and people have somehow come to interpret it as a anti-carry thread and keep making the same points that have been unchallenged the entire time. Maybe they didn't bother to read/understand the thread.

                It also appears that some of you are just the most un lucky SOB's in the world and a magnet for violent crime.

                Thanks to those who participated, it was interesting reading the varying opinions and reasons behind them.

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                • VoR
                  Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 270

                  Originally posted by cudakidd
                  The reason why a 5 Foot 100 Pound woman should carry...and this was a CCW no OC incident...

                  Look, I'm not sure why this thread even exists on a ProGun Forum. We eat our own and do nothing but help the Antis with Threads like this.

                  If you don't want to carry, if you don't want to have loaded Firearms at your home, fine. But please don't hassle those of us who do. Don't label People you don't know that share your 2nd Amendment right as unstable, crazy, etc.
                  I agree 100%. And yes that was not an OC incident but it shows that commercial grade OC is not very effective against a determined attacker.

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                  • IVC
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 17594

                    Originally posted by CAguy
                    I concurred with that assessment in post #101.
                    You concurred with the "security blanket" aspect, but I'm more concerned with the contradictory position often brought up by antis (I don't claim you're one): "(1) you won't need it so why carry," and "(2) it won't help you much if you need it."

                    These two positions should lead to "Here's why I don't carry," but they usually lead to "Here's why *nobody* should carry," which is a thinly veiled "I don't want people to carry because I'm scared of them and the lack of need is a common sense justification."
                    sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                    • SonofWWIIDI
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 21583

                      Witness to the recent shooting in Escondido.


                      The witness who spoke to NBC 7 said the shooting made him realize anything can happen at anytime, anywhere.

                      "We go to Vons, we go anywhere else, anything can happen. We can't underestimate people now," he said.
                      Story.
                      Sorry, not sorry.
                      🎺

                      Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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                      • viet4lifeOC
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 4888

                        I carry whenever or where ever possible because I can't predict the behaviors of others wanting to do harm.

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                        • cudakidd
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3282

                          Originally posted by CAguy
                          Seems this thread has gotten off track and people have somehow come to interpret it as a anti-carry thread and keep making the same points that have been unchallenged the entire time. Maybe they didn't bother to read/understand the thread.

                          It also appears that some of you are just the most un lucky SOB's in the world and a magnet for violent crime.

                          Thanks to those who participated, it was interesting reading the varying opinions and reasons behind them.
                          Unlucky? You might want to check facts and statistics...I myself used a firearm off duty to hold a three striker who just publically assaulted his common law spouse.

                          I have been assaulted/robbed by three Crips at age 13.

                          Live long enough and almost everyone will face some sort of incident...http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/1...violent-crime/

                          or https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/104274.pdf
                          TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
                          The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
                          Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                          Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                          The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
                          The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                          The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                          Are full of passionate intensity.

                          William Butler Yeats 1865-1939

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                          • stormvet
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 12681

                            I get the point the OP is making and a lot of them are valid. But a lot of it also has to do with the fact he does not have a CCW.
                            For someone who has carried a gun for many many years it's no different then leaving your house without your watch. It's habit and a comfort level, something just feels off without it. I still feel uncomfortable going to ball games and leaving it in my car. For god knows how many years I took it in with me, now I have to leave it in the car. Sounds stupid, but I don't enjoy my time at the ballpark as much as I used too. It's in the back of your mind.
                            We are creatures of habit, do something long enough and it is second nature. Dose not matter where I go, there's a gun on my hip or in my pocket. And I am very comfortable with it, if someone else is not, really could care less.
                            Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                            • Gem1950
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 2876

                              Is it me or are some people just over the top when it comes to carrying guns?

                              Yes +/-
                              "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine



                              "We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live."

                              "Is that a desert country?" "No; a fat country; fat people." "You are not fat?" "No. I'm different..."

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                              • jrwhitt
                                Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 310

                                Originally posted by viet4lifeOC
                                I carry whenever or where ever possible because I can't predict the behaviors of others wanting to do harm.
                                Bingo ! I'm sure the Colorado movie goers, the folks downtown Santa Barbra, or at the various colleges/schools also thought they wouldn't need protection either.

                                The story goes a Texas Ranger was at a BBQ and a little old lady noticed his 1911 on his hip. "Oh my" she says "are you expecting trouble ?" "No" he replies "If I was I'd have brought my Rifle".

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