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[VictorFranko]

One other thing - OP should MYOB - what somebody else does or how they feel or why they feel that way is completely personal and IMO has no bearing on how the general public looks at gun enthusiasts.

It's no longer "completely personal" once it has been discussed and openly admitted in a public forum.
Wanna run your mouth and admit things best kept to yourself, don't advertise it on a public forum.
If someone replies to your comments, deal with it, it wouldn't be an issue if you kept your mouth shut.

(You and your used generically)

[Intimid8tor]

I've seen several threads that have made me wounder this question. One thread a guy is considering quitting his job because he can't carry at work. Another someone says they always answer the door armed at all times. Others who refuse to go shopping (or out in public) without carrying a gun. I have seen some were people keep a gun on 24/7 as some kind of security blanket. I have even seen threads asking about carrying while in the shower (like WTF is that?).

There was another thread were It was asserted that answering your door with a shotgun was normal in other states and it must be a CA thing if one were to find that abnormal.

I can see if someone lives in a legitimately bad neighborhood but the way many portray themselves here (up talk their social status) most surely don't live in the ghetto.

Sometimes when I read about people and their fanatical need to carry it comes across as kind of crazy/obsessive. Couple that with all the "what if?" ninja stories and those who have a palpable fantasy of being some kind of super hero bad guy hunter/prepper and it sometimes makes us as a group come across as kind of gun-kooky nutcases.

It's as if there is a door kicking-car jacking-robbing-murderer-rapist-thug (thug is used far too often by the way and I have come to except it to mean either someone who could kick your azz or someone who looks different and people apply bias to their fear/stereotype).

Many of us live in some of the safest neighborhoods on the planet and crime has been on the decline for years now. It seems as if much of this over the top "gun nut" activities/beliefs is fear based rather than rooted in a second amendment/sports shooting/hunting base.

You'd think we were living in a war zone by the way some people talk.

Your view is shared by antis all over the country. You don't agree with other's methods so they must be wacko.

Your indoctrination is perfected.

[dls]

1. There are someA LOT of depraved criminals in the world, who will hurt strangers for no reason that makes sense to any sane person, and

2. There are a lot SOME immature, frightened, and angry people out there as well, and many of them are gun owners.

I think the statement is more accurate now.

[Fjold]

CAGuy,

I carry every day. I put it on to go the grocery store, when I go visit my grandkids, go out to eat, etc.

But I agree with you!

There are people on here who sound like they are going into WW-III every day, questions like: If I carry three guns and the SHTF occurs can I let my friends use my guns? Why can't I list 20 guns on my LTC?, What type of plate armor do you use every day? Where do you carry your 10 spare magazines? Etc.

They sound like a bunch of 13 year old kids who shouldn't be allowed to handle firearms without adult supervision.

[kayaker]

CAGuy,

I carry every day. I put it on to go the grocery store, when I go visit my grandkids, go out to eat, etc.

But I agree with you!

There are people on here who sound like they are going into WW-III every day, questions like: If I carry three guns and the SHTF occurs can I let my friends use my guns? Why can't I list 20 guns on my LTC?, What type of plate armor do you use every day? Where do you carry your 10 spare magazines? Etc.

They sound like a bunch of 13 year old kids who shouldn't be allowed to handle firearms without adult supervision.

I agree.
Everyone must asses their own situation but it seems that a lot of guys are "playing army"

[VictorFranko]

I agree.
Everyone must asses their own situation but it seems that a lot of guys are "playing army"

↑ He said "asses"

[55BlackShadow]

Forum Etiquette

I think it is interesting how somebody in a forum expresses their position or an idea, and is called names by some members.

CAguy is simply stating what some people think about wanting to carry everywhere.

By attacking him, calling him an *******, and to go ****himself for his right to express himself, in my opinion is divisive.

You should have the right to respond with your way of thinking. And you did.

However. This type response just feeds the negative stereotypes of most/some/all gun owners being *******.

The Swiss Rifle Club site has a policy of NO personal attacks like the above, or being banned. No exceptions. I wish Calguns had the same policy.

We should all be able to express ourselves without being attacked and called names. I know first hand the results of stating my opinions.

[chrisw]

" I mean some OC spray or a pocket
knife is not unreasonable and would even be
considered prudent in many cases "

Sorry, but if carrying pepper spray is prudent, so is carrying a firearm..... but yes, some people go a bit far.

[Leethe4th]

Why do you need those "high capacity clips that shoot 30 rounds a second"?

You use high capacity clips, like in an M1 Garand?. I use high capacity magazines in my Glocks and AR-15's. But you can use a clip to load a magazine.

[Dee_Dub]

OP there are 3 types of ppl in the world
Sheep, Sheep dogs and wolves. Which one are you? remember denial has no survival value on the battle field. Denial kills you 2 times once physically once mentally.

[IVC]

Sometimes when I read about people and their fanatical need to carry it comes across as kind of crazy/obsessive. Couple that with all the "what if?" ninja stories and those who have a palpable fantasy of being some kind of super hero bad guy hunter/prepper and it sometimes makes us as a group come across as kind of gun-kooky nutcases.

It's just a numbers game. In a large population you will have all sorts of people. Gun community is no different.

The good thing is they are mostly harmless. The dangerous ones are the kids on drugs who cannot get laid and gang bangers. Neither of them fit the mall ninja profile.

[IVC]

They sound like a bunch of 13 year old kids who shouldn't be allowed to handle firearms without adult supervision.

I'd say that it's the novelty and the current inability to carry. It will wear off the moment they start carrying. Notice how they are all asking questions and talking about *hypothetical* scenarios, meaning they don't carry today.

Compare to unrestricted states. What fraction of the population carries? Of those who do, what fraction carries body armor or mall ninja gear after the first week?

I'd expect CA to follow the overall trend. Around 5%-8% would carry and of those who do carry, about 1% will be considered weird. Not dangerous, just plain weird.

[omgwtfbbq]

I get that. I mean some OC spray or a pocket knife is not unreasonable and would even be considered prudent in many cases (walking/running at night, unknown area ect). I just think some take it too far.

Where you're losing me is that you acknowledge that a firearm is a tool used for self protection. You further acknowledge that carrying a tool for self defense, even in mundane situations like running or walking, is not unreasonable and even prudent, but for reason you draw a distiction between carrying OC spray or a knife and a firearm.

Logically, I don't follow you. I would agree that militant OC advocates protesting in businesses makes the rest of us look like nuts, but the guy who responsibly carries in everyday situations and privately or publically advocates for similar activity is doing the exact same thing you are when you say carrying a knife for protection when you go jogging is prudent.

[VoR]

I think it is interesting how somebody in a forum expresses their position or an idea, and is called names by some members.

CAguy is simply stating what some people think about wanting to carry everywhere.

By attacking him, calling him an *******, and to go ****himself for his right to express himself, in my opinion is divisive.

You should have the right to respond with your way of thinking. And you did.

However. This type response just feeds the negative stereotypes of most/some/all gun owners being *******.

The Swiss Rifle Club site has a policy of NO personal attacks like the above, or being banned. No exceptions. I wish Calguns had the same policy.

We should all be able to express ourselves without being attacked and called names. I know first hand the results of stating my opinions.

Who made personal attack on OP? I thought i read all the responses and don't remember seeing that.

[billofrights]

OP, "thug" is just 2014 media slang for "n*gger."