I got my Unicorn (CZ 75 P-01)

[guest1]

Thanks for the advice. I knew of #1 so I had it all arranged by my FFL prior to the purchase, but I had no idea about what you said in #2! Time to buy some mags...$igh

I got mine from Greg Cote LLC. Good prices and service.

[audiophil2]

Thanks for the advice. I knew of #1 so I had it all arranged by my FFL prior to the purchase, but I had no idea about what you said in #2! Time to buy some mags...$igh

Ouch. I blocked mags for free on guns bought from me. Man am I doing something wrong.

[afteractionreport]

I think you may have the P-01 confused with another gun because I'm yet to hear from an actual owner who thinks this pistol is anything shy of awesome. CZs are known to eat through any amo get through them and "picky" is the furthest thing from the truth hence back to my 1st point.

Maybe.i could be wrong but..i know for a fact it was czsp01 model.in 9mm.. he said it was the compact version.???..) He loved it just like you say people do but i didnt... I just dont see the attraction to pistols that are picky with ammo. Maybe his was just
picky because of the trigger work.....but thats just me guessing....
We were talking and he said" oh you have federal ammo here do u want to try my baby"...off course i took the opportunity to fondle someone elses gun and shot it a few times. Its nice but not unicorn nice... To each his own i guess.( or however the saying goes)..
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[dyson]

Congrats OP! I got the PCR version and it eats everything. Great pick up.

[Manpants]

2 pieces of advice as I just went through the same thing.

1. Make sure your FFL is not going to freak out when he sees the 91199. Few FFLs are cool about it since its the same gun, but many will refuse to DROS it and insist on SSEing it. Don't fall for that BS and find a reasonable FFL that will.
2. Make sure to have your own 10 round Magazine at the start of your DROS process, otherwise, it will be sitting at the FFL till you provide one since the P-01 is being shipped without any magazines.


Congrats.

To be fair it is all because of the CA roster that some FFLs will not allow it. The only difference is the mags, yes. The problem is that since they decided to give it another model number completely it causes problems. The shops aren't giving you BS, they are protecting themselves and you from potential problems (breaking the law). I agree it is ridiculous but it is what it is. We ran into issues with RIA 1911 models due to the very same thing. A call to DOJ can sometimes clear it up and they will allow you to note the differences in the provided section on the form but I wouldn't always bet on it. Same can be said for some other shops around here that try to play with fire when DROSing Glocks in the FDE frame. The roster is very specific and causes quite a bit of confusion and problems. In their eyes a different model number is a different gun even if the only change is the mags.

It isn't really about finding an FFL that is "cool with it" or that won't feed you "BS". The roster, in all of it's flawed glory is the deciding factor. Unfortunately.

As you can see below, not on the roster, means not on the roster. As ridiculous as it is, that is the truth of the matter. Since you cannot PPT with a non CA resident the roster would still apply as it is going through an FFL.

[napoleonhill]

Based on what Manpants said, quick question then. Worst case scenario, I shoot a burglar who is lunging for my family with a knife. Burglar dies. I shoot him with CZ 75 model 91199, which as you guys by this thread I purchased without any mags. In the legal sense and ONLY concentrating on the gun itself, am I in trouble?

[guest1]

Manpants, I appreciate your input by I recently had a lengthy discussion about this subject. The roster shows a model name (P-01) and a SKU # indicating the packaged mag cap. Th OP purchased the rostered model and no mags so the SKU# doesn't mean anything and ANY FFL should DROS it regardless but they won't for different reasons. Please see these previous discussions.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=876157&highlight=p-01

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=937431

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=936841

[dyson]

Based on what Manpants said, quick question then. Worst case scenario, I shoot a burglar who is lunging for my family with a knife. Burglar dies. I shoot him with CZ 75 model 91199, which as you guys by this thread I purchased without any mags. In the legal sense and ONLY concentrating on the gun itself, am I in trouble?

doesn't say the model number on the pistol

[Manpants]

Manpants, I appreciate your input by I recently had a lengthy discussion about this subject. The roster shows a model name (P-01) and a SKU # indicating the packaged mag cap. Th OP purchased the rostered model and no mags so the SKU# doesn't mean anything and ANY FFL should DROS it regardless but they won't for different reasons. Please see these previous discussions.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=876157&highlight=p-01

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=937431

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=936841

I understand what you are saying and understand the difference in SKU#'s. I have gone over this in detail with DOJ out of my shop as well. I deal with issues like this all the time with customers. The model/sku number not being on the firearms itself is the only time you can "get away with it". Look at the roster. The full number is listed. YMMV. Bottom line is if you know the full model number and knowingly do it different, that is on you. If we receive a firearms with a box listing a full model or which does not match the roster we will not do it. Doesn't mean I don't agree the roster is flawed and retarded. It may mean we lose a customer. Unfortunate either way but being able to continue selling firearms dictates how we do business.

As dyson said, it will not list that on the firearm. If it does not then there is no issue if done in person as a PPT. But saying you are buying one with that exact number and stating an FFL is ok with it and just leaving out the mags is not the greatest move. Just leaving out mags doesn't change the lettering on the box. All of your links you provided are saying the same thing I am basically. IF the FFL knowingly accepts it with a different sku and DROS the gun, they are putting themselves at risk during audit. If it was just a skew on the box and not a sku listed in the roster itself, said FFL could leave it off when entering in the A&D book. Since it is ROSTERED with the SKU, you cannot. If the reward outweighs the risk for you and your shop then go for it. With people saying on public forums to try and get the gun without the box or to just swap the mag is not a great move. Think about it for a min. Either way, good luck and I hope you enjoy whichever pistol you end up with.

[guest1]

Based on what Manpants said, quick question then. Worst case scenario, I shoot a burglar who is lunging for my family with a knife. Burglar dies. I shoot him with CZ 75 model 91199, which as you guys by this thread I purchased without any mags. In the legal sense and ONLY concentrating on the gun itself, am I in trouble?

doesn't say the model number on the pistol

There is no SKU # on the gun.

[maylebox]

It seems like sometimes they're around and then you don't see them for months. Low $600's is a solid price point usually they're closer to $700. I ppt'd one last year for $600 nearly new (50 rounds shot) but had to drive a couple hours to get it. I've run everything from hand loads to whitebox to various hollow points through it without fail. It was my HD gun for the last 12 months. The trigger reach was a bit much for me so I installed a short reach trigger from CGW and polished the trigger components to smooth it out. Congrats. I think your gonna love it.

[Zartan]

But late last night I found one on gunbroker which would not come up under search function. Maybe it was the way P-01 was written without the dash? I'm not sure but either way I somehow ended up on the "P01" page through google search, and saw the listing for $600, with the buy it now price of $630.


Oh and the wifey does not know of this, but it's not coming out of family fund so it's okaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Awesome. Was it an auction with 1 bid? That was me Evolution Armory I think? I couldn't get a straight answer if it had the NSN # like in the pic. Congrats!