State Fire Marshall working on ammo disclosure?

[wingman]

Roomer is that State Fire marshall is working on wording for New Fire codes! You will soon be require to disclose if u have more than 1K rounds and its location in your house!
I googled on line but can't find more info?
Can anyone help?

[ratled]

NO need, unless the ammo is in a confines space- chambered- then it is harmless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c

FYI - CASFM has seen this and know it is ture

ratled

[wingman]

Good to know

[DennisCA]

NO need, unless the ammo is in a confines space- chambered- then it is harmless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c

FYI - CASFM has seen this and know it is ture

ratled

Has logic EVER stopped them before??

[mlevans66]

Has logic EVER stopped them before??

Nope!

[RickD427]

Roomer is that State Fire marshall is working on wording for New Fire codes! You will soon be require to disclose if u have more than 1K rounds and its location in your house!
I googled on line but can't find more info?
Can anyone help?

Wingman,

Before a bunch of folks get all spun up over this, can you please cite the source of the "Rumor"?

[fiddletown]

NO need, unless the ammo is in a confines space- chambered- then it is harmless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c...

Well, it's not entirely harmless.

No, you will not be shot by cooking off rounds. But the powder is an accelerant. In quantity it can make a fire burn hotter and quicker. In that sense ammunition and some reloading components aren't any different from other flammable substances, and various fire codes already deal with storage of such in quantity.

[Condorguns]

NO need, unless the ammo is in a confines space- chambered- then it is harmless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c

FYI - CASFM has seen this and know it is ture

ratled

Don't believe everything you see online. My Mom threw what she thought was a empty box into the fireplace. There was a loaded 380 round in it. When it blew she was in front of the fireplace. She had to have a chunk of brass removed from her arm, and the primer was located just under a inch in her leg. The bullet is not the only part that can hurt you.

[Dee_Dub]

I havent heard anything about that. I assume this will be only a voluntary if anything at all. The fire marshals/LAs only do "residential fire safety inspections" at the request of the home owner.

[wingman]

Wingman,

Before a bunch of folks get all spun up over this, can you please cite the source of the "Rumor"?


I was at TDS and a guy in Calfire shirt was talking about it. He said Calfire had a letter from southern ca senator asking about it. He felt the senator was looking for a loop hole to stop stock piling! I googled it but no info found. That's why I was asking here. I don't have a lot of ammo but, still would not want my name on a list!!!

[ratled]

Well, it's not entirely harmless.

No, you will not be shot by cooking off rounds. But the powder is an accelerant. In quantity it can make a fire burn hotter and quicker. In that sense ammunition and some reloading components aren't any different from other flammable substances, and various fire codes already deal with storage of such in quantity.

Reloading components are different from ammo and need to be treated as such.

I seen loose ammo in many a house fire and your mom must have been pretty close that the casing, not the projectile, caused her injury. Had that been a house fire the casing would not have been an issue if it was hot enough to cause the round to cook off

The scary issue is a round chambered and the the barrel point horizontal

ratled

[cdtx2001]

If this is true, it will be a first step in making it a crime to own more than xx number of rounds at any given time.

Really surprised they haven't done this yet.

[SMarquez]

Fire code doesn't have anything to do with personal possessions in the home unless a complaint is made. It can regulate construction like residential fire sprinklers and fire resistive construction but won't regulate what you have in your home unless it becomes an obvious nuisance.

[TWN495]

the fire marshall has no jurisdiction inside your home to my knowledge. I'm a FF and all we have ever done is business inspections. We will help pre-fire plan a home for brush fires, but only at the request of the homeowner. Weed abatement could become an issue, but now I'm getting off track...

I don't see any way for the fire marshall to enforce something like that.

[SMarquez]

the fire marshall has no jurisdiction inside your home to my knowledge. I'm a FF and all we have ever done is business inspections. We will help pre-fire plan a home for brush fires, but only at the request of the homeowner. Weed abatement could become an issue, but now I'm getting off track...

I don't see any way for the fire marshall to enforce something like that.

That's the bottom line.
I would have to mediate neighborhood pissing contests because someone didn't like the way another kept his yard. They couldn't get it through their heads that we can't make people clean out their yards outside of the declared brush abatement zone.