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  • Mitch
    Mostly Harmless
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2008
    • 6574

    Originally posted by SharpAsABall
    That is true. I imagine for her closer friends and family, they're more concerned (naturally so) with her particular case, which was death by gunshots.
    So by that logic I suppose the families of his first three victims are angry about easy access to knives? I somehow doubt it. What do you think those families are going through right now? There's no big national grassroots political organization for them to pin this on.

    One thing we know they aren't doing: none of them are standing in front of network teevee cameras whining about knife control.

    The weapons had nothing to do with this tragedy. It's impossible for me to understand the logic that suggests the weapons used were important for some of the victims but not for others. All the victims are just as dead today.
    Originally posted by cockedandglocked
    Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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    • dchang0
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 2772

      Originally posted by readysetgo
      But most importantly, it will come from having confidence. Where do you/we get this confidence? In a few words, because we know we're right.
      Outstanding advice.

      I'd like to take it a bit further and say that the first thing to do is work on not feeling any shame.

      By that I mean that you must learn how to control and then overcome the hot flush of shame that passes through your body when in that type of situation. You know what I'm talking about--shame, embarrassment, etc., all produce a bodily reaction like that.

      To control and overcome that feeling of shame is as readysetgo says: you must develop confidence in your belief that having a gun is good and right, but it is also about developing the confidence in you yourself, that you have a right to have an opinion and that that opinion is valuable enough that no random person can make you feel less than them just because their opinion conflicts with yours.

      I point you to a famous Eleanor Roosevelt quote: "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Believe your opinions are worth at least as much as this other idiot's opinion, and the hot flush of shame won't occur within you any more.

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      • dchang0
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 2772

        Originally posted by readysetgo
        I think you're spot on BUT it needs to be pointed out that those doing the "shaming" are almost certainly aware of this tendency and are trying to use this to their advantage.
        Very true. I ran into a liberal online who was well-versed in using "belittling" intentionally as a tactic. I was able to disarm him of that tactic by calling it out into the open for what it was.

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        • Gem1950
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2876

          Originally posted by dchang0
          Very true. I ran into a liberal online who was well-versed in using "belittling" intentionally as a tactic. I was able to disarm him of that tactic by calling it out into the open for what it was.
          Belittling is a common tactic used by those with an agenda that does not hold water. I see it frequently around here being used by those of the troll persuasion.
          "To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." Thomas Paine



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          • SharpAsABall
            Junior Member
            • May 2014
            • 31

            I'd like to thank you guys again for your insight. There was a small memorial for her after the college-wide memorial. It wasn't filled with people, and fortunately nobody said anything to me. Though I did get a few states (at least that's what it felt like).

            I'm learning that not feeling apologetic or "closeted" is something people slowly learn, and I'm a lot different now than when I first started shooting. Again, I have you guys to thank for you.

            Keep shooting, stay safe, and take care.
            "I don't pretend to have all the answers. That's what the internet is for, and the internet has never lied to me." -Socrates describing his knowledge to Pluto.

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