WTS but no shipping?

[lolkopter]

People are flakes indeed


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[mj1]

Normally the buyer ships a case inclosed in a box with prepaid postage to the FFL.

In fifty years the only lost item I have had was a Galil ARM from the distributor which was found and returned to them after six months. They then contacted me and asked if i still wanted it at twice the price for the same rifle. I replied that I had reported the rifle stolen to the to the proper agencies by ser.# from my receipt. My FFL received the rifle a week later at no extra charge. Problem solved. That was before the ban and the only side effect was I had to wait so long. Sold the rifle and bought a new truck. I'm sorry your experiences have made you all so negative. I have had good results shipping to and from members and my iTarder in only 1/10th of a reflection as I dispose of everything. Have you thought about collecting bugs?

Cheers

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I want cash in hand. Cold, hard, cash. Most folks are uncomfortable with sending wads of it through the mail to me, as uncomfortable as I am trusting FedEx, UPS, etc. with a firearm. Have you thought about buying bugs by mail instead of whining about sellers' preferences?

[Elwood_Blues]

Because CA$H is KING! Why would I wanna go through all the trouble of shipping when I don't have to?

[joefrank64k]

I used to be hesitant to ship, but now I have no problems, and it does open your customer base substantially. I've sold plenty of pieces on GB that just sat here on CG. Long guns cost about $30 to ship, and my FFL charges $45 to box & ship handguns. Not too bad at all.

I get the long boxes and bubble wrap from Uline, and the tape from Costco. I box, weigh, and print the labels at home. Then just drop off at the local UPS hub. Buyers who don't want to use PayPal just mail me a USPS MO. It's really easy.

[Apec]

Fee's..
Unless your willing to pickup the fee's from both sides of the transaction.
Some dealers charge to ship and enter it into the bound books..
A person is selling off their gun wants to be able to get the maximum amount..but that dwindles as the fees are tacked on..

You do not need a FFL to ship a firearm. Your only costs are shipping and you can have your buyer pick up those costs.

Shipping isn't even that bad. Do any of you use gunbroker? 99% of your deals on that site are going to be shipped, even if they are coming from private sellers.

Payment is usually handled via money orders or cashiers checks, so its harder to get ripped off.

[glock_this]

Shipping a weapon is a PITA if you are not a retailer or a web store with that infrastructure in place. Plus just added steps to take it someplace and ship it, effort, shipping risk, added cost (that you pass on), you cannot get paid in good old cash, scams, etc. In my case, I would never ship a weapon for these simple reasons, and generally, there is no need to as someone local will buy and thus, cash in hand with all of that nonsense removed.

[JackRydden224]

Why not? Because plenty of people spread FUD about how hard it is to ship and such. I bought my Les Baer from someone who didn't want to ship but when I said that I would provide a FedEx shipping label so all he had to do is drop it off he became a welling to do so. It's really easy. You box it and you ship it.

I keep boxes from the uppers I bought so when I need to ship stuff out I don't need to buy new ones. The PSA boxes are excellent for shipping.

[joefrank64k]

Why not? Because plenty of people spread FUD about how hard it is to ship and such. I bought my Les Baer from someone who didn't want to ship but when I said that I would provide a FedEx shipping label so all he had to do is drop it off he became a welling to do so. It's really easy. You box it and you ship it.

I keep boxes from the uppers I bought so when I need to ship stuff out I don't need to buy new ones. The PSA boxes are excellent for shipping.

Exactly...besides, I get more money for my items on GB, even accounting for GB fees. Example: I had a sweet M70 XTR Featherweight on CG for $700. It just sat for weeks. I put it on GB, it went for $830 and the buyer paid the shipping fee (my fee includes all my costs - box, bubble wrap, tape, postage)

It took me all of 15 minutes to box it up. The buyer mailed me a USPS MO, I dropped the rifle off on the way home from work, and I made an extra $110 for my "trouble".

[Ed_Hazard]

I want cash in hand. Cold, hard, cash. Most folks are uncomfortable with sending wads of it through the mail to me, as uncomfortable as I am trusting FedEx, UPS, etc. with a firearm. Have you thought about buying bugs by mail instead of whining about sellers' preferences?

Because CA$H is KING! Why would I wanna go through all the trouble of shipping when I don't have to?

Shipping a weapon is a PITA if you are not a retailer or a web store with that infrastructure in place. Plus just added steps to take it someplace and ship it, effort, shipping risk, added cost (that you pass on), you cannot get paid in good old cash, scams, etc. In my case, I would never ship a weapon for these simple reasons, and generally, there is no need to as someone local will buy and thus, cash in hand with all of that nonsense removed.

All of the above and also the fact that the only time I tried shipping I passed out from the exertion, what with being lazy and all, on top of that I received numerous paper cuts, sealed an empty box, then got lost on the way to the UPS Hub, because of incompetence.

[glock_this]

Why not? Because plenty of people spread FUD about how hard it is to ship and such. I bought my Les Baer from someone who didn't want to ship but when I said that I would provide a FedEx shipping label so all he had to do is drop it off he became a welling to do so. It's really easy. You box it and you ship it.

I keep boxes from the uppers I bought so when I need to ship stuff out I don't need to buy new ones. The PSA boxes are excellent for shipping.

There is no FUD about it.

I can sit at home, go meet a buyer after a few PM or a phone call, get the price I want, in cash, and make 1 trip to the FFL to do the PPT. 1 step.

OR

I can find a box (or maybe have to buy one), box it up, go to the website and get a shipping quote after I have weighed it hoping I have a scale, then take the time to let the guy know, wait for him to respond and hopefully approve the additional cost, maybe have to haggle over price since he has to pay shipping and wants the best deal, than IF one has the ability pay and print a label online, than take it to a center and drop it off wherever that might be & in CA that can be an utter nightmare, and then hope it gets there and hope no shipping issues along the way as than the real battle starts. And then I still have waited for the guy to send me payment, wait for it to clear, and the hassle and steps of going to the bank or wherever to cash or deposit it.

AND

In the end, how much more will I really get for all of that effort versus a local buyer. The gun has a value, only so much above that value you can go, do I really get more for the gun by selling to someone I have to ship to. No. It is more of a PITA than the ROI for the effort.

Not a bit of FUD there.

ps - I just sold a BNIB 22lr Sig for cash at about as high of a market value as one could ask. Shipping it would not have opened me up to any new buyers that I could not get locally, but surely opens me up to the added hour(s) and time and effort. No thanks, patience has always yielded a local cash in hand buyer that I meet 1 time and get on with life.

[Capybara]

After UPS "lost" $5,000.00 of my video gear, I have a bit of a hard time believing they could never lose a gun. I have bought plenty of C&Rs through UPS and FedEx with no problem, but it's different when you are on the shipping/seller end. If I list something on here and get no bites, I would consider shipping but I usually get bites because I price stuff for the price I would want to buy it at, I don't try to set too high prices as most do.

[glock_this]

Patience can really make all of the difference in selling locally. I have bought many, many, many weapons by internet or mail. But never one from an individual seller. Only from established biz's that have the infrastructure to ship and crank out shipped weapons all day long. For the 1 off guy locally, a total PITA IMHO I just wouldn't do. And IF, IF I had to take a few bucks less locally to get cash in hand from 1 meeting at my local FFL, I would take it over shipping any day of the week. It is an easy and quick decision for me personally.. just be patient.

[MudCamper]

Shipping is hit and miss. Sure, it might go smoothly. But **** happens. Like the insurance is way higher than estimated, and after you already collected the buyers money. Like the buyer's FFL freaks out and calls you mad because you shipped to him direct and he doesn't understand that that is completely legal. I've been willing to ship, but I've had all kinds of headaches.

And many have said it already, but it takes time. It takes lots and lots of my precious time. Buy a box. Buy packaging. Pack it all up. Print up all the laws and shipper policies. Find a shipper who is willing to ship. Deal with idiot shipping employees who don't understand the law. It ends up taking a few hours, which nullifies any profit from selling the gun in the first place. I may as well just have kept it. I think in the future if I sell a firearm, I'll offer to ship, but will charge $300 for it.

Plus the buyer will have to pay transfer fees and tax, which he doesn't have to pay when doing a PPT. That's another 100 bucks on top of shipping and insurance right there. It really only makes sense to ship when price is literally no object. I don't think that is often the case.

[Apec]

It's not like FTF/PPT isn't hit or miss either. There are plenty of whine posts about "flakes" and people who haggle at the meeting AFTER the price was agreed on. I even remember some really botched PPT in which the seller met with the wrong buyer and sold him a gun meant for someone else.