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  • witchdoktor
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 8

    Did I get ripped off? 91/30.

    Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster.
    After wanting one forever I finally caved in and decided to purchase my first gun.
    I always knew it would be a 91/30 mosin nagant. I walked into the gun-store and asked to see the gun I had called in ahead about.
    $202 was more than I was used to seeing mosins going for but I was so giddy to be just holding one that it didn't even sink in. I was told to inspect the gun but felt so in the moment that I didn't really even inspect anything. I honestly couldn't even tell you if it had a hex or round receiver.

    I do know it comes with a bayonet, and an oil container, no information on sling or ammo pouches. Didn't occur to me to ask at the time. The attendant at the gun store said it was good to go straight to the range so I'm assuming it has already been scrubbed of cosmoline. I also noticed that the notches for the sling had the metal inlays missing. My entire process of inspection was pulling the bolt in and out a couple of times, and looking at the butt-plate, receiver and bolt for serial numbers but not even checking to see if they matched up. (I was honestly just frazzled, been in a gun store only once before.)

    Getting to the point:
    1) What could make the rifle so much more expensive than normal, would a store purposefully overcharge for no reason?
    2) What should I look for when I go to pick it up in 9 days... are there any deal-breakers that if I see I should ask for a refund.
    3) did I royally screw myself by not making this thread before initial purchase?
  • #2
    kygen
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 3259

    Do you know what year it was produced? And was this $202 out the door? after taxes and fees?
    Originally posted by thrillhouse700
    I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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    • #3
      sierra m37
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 295

      Never hurts to ask in advance. Fairly helpful group here...most of the time. I paid $89 for my Mosin about two years ago at Big5 and got to look at a couple they had and pick. I did ask questions prior and have owned rifles before but I also figured for a c note to get one of WWII's main battle rifles was worth the potential risk of getting a dud. It wasn't a dud and packs a wallop but man that cosmoline was a pain to clean. I've heard and think I saw them at Big5 for around $180 now so $202 doesn't sound terribly bad. Google search is your freind on what to look for. Bolt, receiver and barrel are the most important items.

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      • #4
        monk
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4454

        When I bought mind about three years ago I paid 130 otd. It was the hexagonal rifle that everyone wants. I think 202 is way too much for the amount of mosins there are.

        Also, it may have cosmoline so I personally wouldn't shoot it until after it got a proper cleaning.


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        • #5
          MiddleKingdom
          Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 442

          If you paid too much it wasn't by much. The $89-$99 deals at Big 5 are long gone now. I toy with the idea of picking up one too, but I don't want to deal with all that cosmoline.
          "Now why doesn't somebody take out a .45 and BANG... settle it?" - Mr. Lee

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          • #6
            witchdoktor
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 8

            Originally posted by kygen
            Do you know what year it was produced? And was this $202 out the door? after taxes and fees?
            No idea unfortunately didnt take mental note.
            closer to 300 with fees and locks and ammo, taxes, etc.

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            • #7
              Vlad 11
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 2961

              Ripped off isnt the correct description. Maybe you could have done better if you shopped around or had more knowledge about the rifles. But education costs money, so lesson learned.

              At the end of the day ( or ten days ) you're still going to have solid powerful centerfire rifle for around 2 bills. Not a bad deal in the grand scheme of things.

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              • #8
                witchdoktor
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 8

                Originally posted by Vlad 11
                Ripped off isnt the correct description. Maybe you could have done better if you shopped around or had more knowledge about the rifles. But education costs money, so lesson learned.

                At the end of the day ( or ten days ) you're still going to have solid powerful centerfire rifle for around 2 bills. Not a bad deal in the grand scheme of things.
                Thanks man! It makes me feel much better.
                Also my grandfather served in WWII with one (Red Army Tank Brigade).
                Pretty sure he didn't get to pick and choose his rifle either haha.

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                • #9
                  robcoe
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 8685

                  If it was 202 out the door, not to bad, even before fees it wasn't terrible

                  I have a couple I paid 50 bucks for, but that was before everything shot up with the panic.

                  as for the hardware, it's a soviet product, expect some inconsistencies.

                  No real deal breakers unless you find a big crack running down the barrel.
                  Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
                  No, I will not fix your computer.

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                  • #10
                    H K corporate assassin
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 800

                    A little high but not outrageous.

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                    • #11
                      Rosereader
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 805

                      I paid about the same for my hex 91/30, after buying it online. So long as the bore is good you should be fine with it.

                      Welcome to the Mosin family! We're a diverse bunch of historians and destitute cheapskates! Warning: Mosin-Nagants multiply. We take no responsibility for them overrunning your home.
                      So I was driving home from the range and I noticed that the scent of warm steel, burnt gunpowder and lukewarm coffee combined and smelled oddly of... Peanut butter?! Man, the Hoppe's is going to my head.


                      Originally posted by RR.44
                      Rose, you're sick dude
                      Originally posted by Jimmybacon43
                      I like to call us the "Nighttime association of Law abiding and moral fellows"
                      Or NALAMF for short.
                      Originally posted by FremontJames
                      What do you consider long range?
                      Take half of a binocular, tape it to your rifle.

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                      • #12
                        robcoe
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 8685

                        Originally posted by Rosereader
                        Welcome to the Mosin family! We're a diverse bunch of historians and destitute cheapskates! Warning: Mosin-Nagants multiply. We take no responsibility for them overrunning your home.
                        No kidding, I started with one, now depending on how you count it(total I own vs the ones in my home) I have between 6 and 12 of them.
                        Yes, I am an electrical engineer.
                        No, I will not fix your computer.

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                        • #13
                          Rosereader
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 805

                          Originally posted by robcoe
                          No kidding, I started with one, now depending on how you count it(total I own vs the ones in my home) I have between 6 and 12 of them.
                          Mine multiply but expel themselves outward as a beautiful cloud of noxious soviet spores...


                          By which I mean I bought one, then started convincing other people to buy them and giving them away to members of my family. Now they're EVERYWHERE.
                          So I was driving home from the range and I noticed that the scent of warm steel, burnt gunpowder and lukewarm coffee combined and smelled oddly of... Peanut butter?! Man, the Hoppe's is going to my head.


                          Originally posted by RR.44
                          Rose, you're sick dude
                          Originally posted by Jimmybacon43
                          I like to call us the "Nighttime association of Law abiding and moral fellows"
                          Or NALAMF for short.
                          Originally posted by FremontJames
                          What do you consider long range?
                          Take half of a binocular, tape it to your rifle.

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                          • #14
                            sl0re10
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7242

                            Originally posted by witchdoktor
                            Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster.
                            After wanting one forever I finally caved in and decided to purchase my first gun.
                            I always knew it would be a 91/30 mosin nagant. I walked into the gun-store and asked to see the gun I had called in ahead about.
                            $202 was more than I was used to seeing mosins going for but I was so giddy to be just holding one that it didn't even sink in. I was told to inspect the gun but felt so in the moment that I didn't really even inspect anything. I honestly couldn't even tell you if it had a hex or round receiver.

                            I do know it comes with a bayonet, and an oil container, no information on sling or ammo pouches. Didn't occur to me to ask at the time. The attendant at the gun store said it was good to go straight to the range so I'm assuming it has already been scrubbed of cosmoline. I also noticed that the notches for the sling had the metal inlays missing. My entire process of inspection was pulling the bolt in and out a couple of times, and looking at the butt-plate, receiver and bolt for serial numbers but not even checking to see if they matched up. (I was honestly just frazzled, been in a gun store only once before.)

                            Getting to the point:
                            1) What could make the rifle so much more expensive than normal, would a store purposefully overcharge for no reason?
                            2) What should I look for when I go to pick it up in 9 days... are there any deal-breakers that if I see I should ask for a refund.
                            3) did I royally screw myself by not making this thread before initial purchase?
                            The best deal I was able to get last year was $150. So; I don't think you way overpaid. When people talk about their $80 mosins; that was 3-4 (or more) years ago. Those deals are gone.

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                            • #15
                              sealocan
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 9950

                              I wouldn't sweat it if I were you, you give them pieces of paper and they're going to give you a very historic, strong, reliable rifle that works with a minimal amount of parts.
                              something your grandfather might have not even been given at first, going into battle.

                              I'm sure you've seen "Enemy at the gate" ... "one gets the the rifle and the other one follows until the man with a rifle is dead".

                              you're not even going to have to follow anyone!
                              how much is that worth to you?

                              and I have removed cosmoline before and if the salesman was correct and it's ready to go ,which of course you should check, that's worth a few dollars right there, in my opinion. all those low prices that you have been seeing or hearing about ...usually the rifle is filled with cosmoline

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