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[SkyHawk]

I have a sibling who is CHP who "informed" us that we need to have our rifles in a locked container when transporting them.

Unless you can avoid passing within 1000 feet of the boundary of a private, public or church K-12 school grounds in your travels, he is correct. Locked container or trunk with no pass through to cabin. It's Federal Law - and plenty of people have been convicted of it in CA, including people who were seen by LEO passing through then stopped outside the zone.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Gun_Free_School_Zones

Be smart - carry it in a locked container. It's $20 for a container and a lock. Or if you think you can navigate a city without one, well good luck.

LOS ANGELES


SAN FRANCISCO

[cruising7388]

As of now, my mechanic is saying I lost high fuel pressure to my injectors.

It must have been the fuel pump, clogged filter or the pressure regulator. Sometimes what looks like a fuel flow problem to the injectors is actually a computer glitch that shuts down the logic that pulse modulate the injectors. Let us know which. Did your rig flat out quit or just start to limp along?

[IVC]

But if you have them in the trunk? with a loaded magazine next to it?

F-250 is a truck.

[M1NM]

A blanket will fix the "plain view" problem.

and instantly create a concealed weapon.

[Tarasdad]

This is one of the reasons I'm looking at a Honda Ridgeline. I don't really have need of a pure pickup truck any more and the Ridgeline will do everything I need. The "trunk in the bed" storage area is just a plus.

[golfish]

To answer a few questions

I told the CHP officer I had firearms in my vehicle because the probability that he was going to see them as he walked past my truck was very likely. CHP officers always have their heads on a swivel and rarely miss something as obvious as gun cases in the back seat.

My thought process is that if he had seen the firearms without me mentioning them, he would have been more inclined to want to inspect them which only leads to trouble (confusion about 10/30 mags, etc). If I had had the firearms in a concealed location, such a truck, I would have never brought them up.

As of now, my mechanic is saying I lost high fuel pressure to my injectors.

I agree with your decision. I always have a large wool blanket and pillow in my truck. Guns are behind\under the rear seat and ammo boxes covered with the blanket.

[97F1504RAD]

It must have been the fuel pump, clogged filter or the pressure regulator. Sometimes what looks like a fuel flow problem to the injectors is actually a computer glitch that shuts down the logic that pulse modulate the injectors. Let us know which. Did your rig flat out quit or just start to limp along?

From the description he gave it sounds as though his truck is a diesel and it lost the high pressure pump, time to get your wallet out.

[fawndog]

is it a diesel ?
IPR valve ?

[Fishslayer]

God help you if you have weak muscles in yer butt & the LEO sees ya clench!

Fixed it there...

[CBR_rider]

another normal LEO encounter with firearms.

[StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca]

I got pulled over by CHP while heading up to Cedarville a few years ago. I made a mistake by leaving a box of 22LR on my passenger seat - e-check ensued. Luckily, I had no AR's with me because...

A very good friend of mine had a county sheriff check his BB AR he was legally transporting, went nuts and confiscated EVERYTHING and threatened him with a FEL-O-NY. Thousands of $$$ in legal fees and months of stress finally got everything dropped and firearms returned.

Its stories like this and many others that give Ca LE such a bad rep.

[JDay]

One of my worst fears happened yesterday - CHP encounter

and instantly create a concealed weapon.

Handguns that are in locked containers are not concealed per CA law. CA law also states that long guns are not concealable. I.E. a long gun is impossible to conceal in CA.


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[RickD427]

Handguns that are in locked containers are not concealed per CA law. CA law also states that long guns are not concealable. I.E. a long gun is impossible to conceal in CA.


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JDay,

California law does not say this.

It is illegal to carry a concealed weapon, on your person, or in a vehicle, that is a pistol, revolver, or "firearm capable of being concealed on the person." Here is the text of California's concealed carry law:


Here's the way that California defines a "firearm capable of being concealed on the person":


Please carefully note the use of inclusive language in the definition. The definition does not exclude other weapons from also being capable of being concealed on the person. If the definition used exclusive langauge, you would be correct, but it does not.

Look at it this way. If I tell you that sports cars include Porsches and Ferraris - Is that a true statement? It certainly is. Does that mean that a Lamborghini is therefore not a sports car? It would be different if I told you that only Porsches and Ferraris are sports cars - Is that one a true statement? If so, would a Lamborghini then be a sports car?

It's not a meaningless distinction. I once approved an arrest where a gang member had concealed a full size AR-15 underneath a large stadium-type coat that fully concealed the weapon. A key issue in the trial was whether the rifle was a "firearm capable of being concealed" on the person. It was a juvenile court trial (without a jury). The judge considered the inclusive langauge used in the definition, and the evidence the stadium coat fully concealed the rifle. The case ended with a sustained petition (the juvenile equivalent of a conviction).

[aBrowningfan]

^^^This (although IDK about the $20 number). I transport my Browning O/U to the range in a shotgun case ( http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot...3Bcat104730480 ) that has two zippers that I lock together with a small padlock. At that point, the shotgun is in a locked container. Ounce of prevention vs. a pound (or more) of cure and what-not.

[SoCalEnthusiast]

Can you have your firearm in the trunk, in a small gun bag (w/lock) and a loaded magazine placed in the bag? the small bag has a little key lock on it. basically could be opened with a small pocket knife however. Are you good to go in that scenario?