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  • kustomkat1950
    airplane guy/Coastal GA
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2011
    • 1764

    Oathkeepers

    anyone join/heard of them since the Bundy issue? they were instrumental in heading off the BLM. I agree with their sentiments as a vet... Thoughts?
    "When the system breaks down, you get to vote from the rooftops. Its one of the last best traditions of western enlightenment"

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    Question EVERYTHING.

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  • #2
    CinnamonBear723
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 1874

    Ive been approached by them many times. They appear to have a good cause but in the end they are just a radical group on the right wing. Im weary of radical groups no matter what side of the spectrum they are on.

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    • #3
      boanerges
      Banned
      • Sep 2013
      • 324

      Meanwhile back at the ranch there appears to be trouble brewing.

      Seems the Oathkeepers were staying it town at nice motels and casinos while the Militia was doing the job. The Militia is not happy:

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      • #4
        michaelthetrojan
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1070

        oathkeeper is the name of the latest game of thrones episode... funny

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        • #5
          RandyD
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 6673

          Originally posted by CinnamonBear723
          Ive been approached by them many times. They appear to have a good cause but in the end they are just a radical group on the right wing. Im weary of radical groups no matter what side of the spectrum they are on.
          In my opinion, too many people just repeat talking points that they have heard, and do not have any depth of understanding regarding their opinions. With that said, I want to ask if you will state any facts that would justify characterizing them as a radical group. Can you name any acts that they have done that are radical. Can you identify any of their policies that are radical.
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          • #6
            boanerges
            Banned
            • Sep 2013
            • 324

            Originally posted by RandyD
            In my opinion, too many people just repeat talking points that they have heard, and do not have any depth of understanding regarding their opinions. With that said, I want to ask if you will state any facts that would justify characterizing them as a radical group. Can you name any acts that they have done that are radical. Can you identify any of their policies that are radical.
            Supported Cliven Bundy. Pointed loaded weapons at Federal Officers. Violated court orders. Interfered with officials in the performance of their duties. Blocked an Interstate highway.

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            • #7
              Merc1138
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19742

              Originally posted by boanerges
              Supported Cliven Bundy. Pointed loaded weapons at Federal Officers. Violated court orders. Interfered with officials in the performance of their duties. Blocked an Interstate highway.


              Damn radicals.

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              • #8
                whlgun
                Veteran Member
                • May 2006
                • 3057

                Originally posted by Merc1138


                Damn radicals.
                You mean "Domestic Terrorists"
                Rights modified on a "need" basis, IS the root of tyranny
                Its not the Bill of Needs. Its the Bill of RIGHTS

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                • #9
                  Jasonaspears
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1200

                  Originally posted by Merc1138


                  Damn radicals.
                  Perfect!

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                  • #10
                    Bailer
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16

                    Originally posted by boanerges
                    Supported Cliven Bundy. Pointed loaded weapons at Federal Officers. Violated court orders. Interfered with officials in the performance of their duties. Blocked an Interstate highway.

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                    • #11
                      boanerges
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 324

                      Originally posted by Bailer
                      "You're a stooge, and a piece of ****."

                      -Me
                      Yeah, that's pretty much the intelligence level I expect from those who support Cliven Bundy.

                      His Constitutional argument is that he does not recognize the US Government.

                      You are aware it is the Bundy Ranch we are talking about and not the Bunny Ranch?
                      Last edited by boanerges; 05-04-2014, 11:14 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Bailer
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16

                        His argument is that his family has ranched that land for over 100 years, before the BLM existed.

                        His argument is that the BLM, has used his fees, and the fees of other ranchers to buy their property and put them out of business.

                        His argument is that the claim of protecting the endangered desert tortoise is bull****.

                        His claim is that this is a land grab perpetrated by Harry Reid, to benefit himself and his family.

                        There is sufficient evidence to support these claims. If you cannot see that, I can only feel pity for your wretched self. My only hope is that the government does not set their sights on any property you own. No, they'd never do that. You're such an obedient and humble sort. Take another hit of soma and get melted. "A gramme is better than a damn." Stooge.

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                        • #13
                          philobeddoe
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 2022

                          This thread is awesome.
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                          • #14
                            Bailer
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16

                            When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

                            We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

                            -Declaration of Independence

                            If you read and understand this, your outlook on the peoples relationship to their government should clarify significantly. Your fundamental rights are assured by God. Not by man. No declaration or man made law can substitute Gods will.

                            Our governments sole purpose is to defend our unalienable rights of Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. It is the People's right to abolish or alter the government if it fails to serve its purpose. Whether intentionally or otherwise.
                            Last edited by Bailer; 05-05-2014, 12:35 AM.

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                            • #15
                              boanerges
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 324

                              Originally posted by Bailer
                              His argument is that his family has ranched that land for over 100 years, before the BLM existed.

                              His argument is that the BLM, has used his fees, and the fees of other ranchers to buy their property and put them out of business.

                              His argument is that the claim of protecting the endangered desert tortoise is bull****.

                              His claim is that this is a land grab perpetrated by Harry Reid, to benefit himself and his family.

                              There is sufficient evidence to support these claims. If you cannot see that, I can only feel pity for your wretched self. My only hope is that the government does not set their sights on any property you own. No, they'd never do that. You're such an obedient and humble sort. Take another hit of soma and get melted. "A gramme is better than a damn." Stooge.
                              He raised all those arguments in court and lost four times in a row.

                              He does not like the court decisions so he is taking the law into his own hands.

                              He is an armed insurrectionist and a common criminal. I suppose you would like to canonize Jesse James, too.

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