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  • #31
    wceviper
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 224

    they should do a cross check of all guns that were stolen and all guns that were recovered, if any of them were used in a homicide they should get life without parole.

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    • #32
      blackhawk411
      Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 439

      Bersa...nice.

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      • #33
        bruceflinch
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 40127

        The punishment should fit the crime. That was some serious crap.
        Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

        I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

        Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

        Secret Club Member?.

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        • #34
          postal
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 4566

          No big- just a misdemeaner.

          Look at sheriff Tidwell's theft of over 500 guns....

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          Justice wasn’t served in Tidwell gun-theft case
          Pasadena Star News ^ | December 01, 2004

          Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:48:41 PM by TERMINATTOR

          FORMER San Bernardino County Sheriff Floyd Tidwell's plea bargain on charges of stealing more than 500 guns during his tenure has led to a reduced sentence that saves the public nothing, even as it saves Tidwell from going to prison.

          Justice, indeed, has been cheated. And so have law-abiding citizens, who expect that San Bernardino County's one-time top law enforcement officer be held liable for his transgressions.

          Instead, Judge J. Michael Welch on Tuesday reduced Tidwell's felony charges to misdemeanors, sentenced him to three years' probation and fined him $10,000.

          Welch seemed to wink and look the other way at Tidwell's contemptible practice of lifting guns from the Sheriff's Department's property room and rewarding them willy-nilly to sworn deputies, reserve deputies, volunteers and even his two sons, Danial and Steven, both deputies at the time.

          In letting Tidwell off the hook, Welch dismissed the whole affair as a bygone custom something out of the era of cowboy sheriffs that has since been discontinued. We would think that this kind of good old boy favoritism doesn't happen in Los Angeles County under Sheriff Lee Baca and District Attorney Steve Cooley. Right?

          Still, Tidwell's hypocrisy is something far less innocent than that when a sheriff thinks nothing of pilfering firearms, disposing of them however he pleases, and then suffering no accountability for it.

          Nor has Tidwell admitted any wrongdoing. He pleaded guilty in May to four felony counts of concealing stolen property.

          Part of the plea agreement is that Tidwell return the weapons. Though prosecutors believe he may have absconded with more than 1,000 guns while sheriff (he served from 1983 to 1991), Tidwell thus far has returned only about 160 of them.

          For that, Tidwell walks away, chewing his tobacco, a free man. He still will draw his pension, though whether he will be allowed to remain a volunteer is still up in the air.

          Will he have to pay even some small price for his misdeeds? That he has not been given the punishment he deserves is a disgrace to the legal system and an object lesson of what not to do for all law enforcement everywhere. It's also a betrayal of honest folks who put their faith in the law.

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          • #35
            Wild Squid
            Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 494

            Those Fedex and UPS guys sure do steal a lot of ****. Guy at my gym told me his buddy works for Fedex and sells the HD TV's out his truck while delivering.

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            • #36
              trinydex
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 4720

              Originally posted by ZapThyCat
              Personally, I'm shocked that these guys were caught, not by FEDEX who had these guns stolen, but by the people they were trying to sell them to. What kind of crap is that?

              Couldn't they also get them on Grand theft too?
              is there a concealed carry law in wherever this was? are they allowed to have loaded guns hidden in the steering wheel?

              man this really pisses me off. i hope the federal prosecutor reams his ***. guys like this are the REAL REASON that there is gun crime. the worst part is this is more fuel for the anti fire. they're not going to see that a true toolbag like this is the reason guns get into the hands of criminals.
              Last edited by trinydex; 08-18-2008, 2:34 PM.

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              • #37
                Xerxes
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1664

                The world only wonders how many of the civilians silently suffer in pain...]

                Because the Brown shirt or blue short fellow stole all the Percodan, oxycotin, and vicodin to feed their own drug habit or to sell to finance whatever habit they had (hope it was not a C&R habit).

                I do personally know about FedEx stealing drugs because I tried delivery of 30 vicodin through the internet/mail instead of picking up at the pharmancy because point and click and knock next day with item appealed to me.

                Instead the FedEx guy in blue shorts stole my 30 vicodin for whatever use he had.

                What a bunch of corrupt idiots they are.

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                • #38
                  xenophobe
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 7069

                  Do you want to know why UPS will only ship a handgun overnight?

                  Someone at the San Jose UPS facility did the same thing... stole guns from shipments, so many that they changed their firearms policy country-wide.

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                  • #39
                    tyrist
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4564

                    Originally posted by CALI-gula
                    I caught that too, and I am thinking they removed the air-bag box, and put them in the hollowed space; both of those are small guns. I doubt most police officers would think to look in that area if it still had the air-bag center covering on the wheel. I assume it didn't look abnormal at all, and I don't think I would try to pry open an airbag unit for no reason on a regular traffic stop - but here, they had a reason to check; it's what they were looking for already. Interesting place to hide a gun though - LEO should keep that in mind.

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                    If we had authority to do a full search we would find them....we check and dismantle everything...not to mention we have gun dogs give it the once over.

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                    • #40
                      BigMac
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1115

                      The guys that burgled my store are already out of prison. 33 months is all they got.

                      This will be considered a non violent crim and they will get a slap on the hand.
                      gunnutsnospam@sbcglobal.net

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                      • #41
                        duenor
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4617

                        I hope they get an opportunity to give up a lot of chon chon during those 5 years.
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                        • #42
                          THE 0NE
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 590

                          great!!!!

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                          • #43
                            Full Clip
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 10263

                            Originally posted by 56Chevy
                            It's the guns bought legally from gun stores that we have to worry about. We also have to worry about the gun show loophole.
                            Yeah, the FedEx loophole seems to be a bigger problem.
                            Five years? Absurd. They should be additionally charged as accessories in any crime committed with those guns.

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                            • #44
                              tyrist
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 4564

                              Originally posted by Full Clip
                              Yeah, the FedEx loophole seems to be a bigger problem.
                              Five years? Absurd. They should be additionally charged as accessories in any crime committed with those guns.
                              If they could actually prove which guns they stole and sold. The reason it is only five years...I have a strong feeling it's because they could not put any other charges on them except for the one they got when they did the sting. If they were actually able to attach 146 stolen guns to these guys they would get 146 counts of felony firearm theft which would effectively place them in prison for the rest of their lives. However, I do not believe LE could'nt put those guns on them so they are merely being charged with the guns they had in their actual possession and nothing more.

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                              • #45
                                robbor
                                Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 167

                                fedex

                                I like how Fedex cooperated with police investigation, but probably never investigated themselves when the shippers complained. I

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