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  • #16
    Xerxes
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1664

    About 12 years ago, during the Glock in the hood craze due to rapster video and gang bang movies....

    I tried to UPS my Glock back to the Factory from the Richmond CA facility.

    They had the address flagged in the system and said they do not ship GLOCKS anymore. It was like wow? Is this just glocks or what? They said yes it was a memo in the system to not accept glocks for shipment. I said that is like discrimination against Law Enforcement and Boys in the Hood.

    Later I asked about this to a friend that was a supervisor on the sorting line. He stated they had banned Glocks from shipment for like 3 months now. Seems that over 90 went missing at that facility alone and that it was a widespread problem at UPS that packages to and from the Glock address were disappearing at an alarming rate so they stopped any doing any shipments to or from.

    The Richmond PD and ATF and supposedly even the FBI all had investigations going at that Richmond UPS and had interviewed a lot of folks. He told me some boys from the hood were let go because of suspicions they were involved, in fact it was one whole crew section or such.

    I called Glock, they said they were aware of the situation. They told me the solution was to find an authorized glock armourer. Funny thing they did not say this when I talked to them originally. They said this policy was a hit or miss thing at UPS and thought that the pattern suggested UPS centers in certain neighborhoods were subject to this rule. They also said this was part of some kind of investigation (it was the same time that Congress was trying to ban the plastic gun due to all those Americans getting hijacked and killed by those guns getting smuggled by the metal detectors). All of this seemed like a bunch of B.S. and more like when the alpha dog says attack the weakest dog all the other dogs jump in and attack for no other reason as it was the fad that day.

    I was amazed that a large company like UPS would implement such a policy. I would think they would instead focus on security and hiring honest people. It just seemed all backwards and twisted that they would have to make such a rule to stop theft that their employees were doing. How perverted is that.

    Anyways after the Glock fad went away and Congress gave up trying to ban the thing the world once more became safe for Glock owners.

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    • #17
      liberty08
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 806

      I worked for ups a few years as a part timer unloading trailers. I remember when
      ups was sued because a firearm that was stolen by an employee was used in a Burger King shooting in New Jersey. After that there was security at work including metal detectors. This went on for 6 months or so and then stopped. That was when they later adopted the policy of shipping firearms next day air only. I didn't know what was in 90% of the boxes I handled but I suppose a thief who does his homework might. While working I'd encounter a lot of empty boxes in the trailers. Some were for cell phones and video games. I have talked to other employee's that have found drugs and money in some of the broken boxes. Amazing how much crime there is in the shipping industry.

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      • #18
        jacques
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 2478

        How come I can never find a box of money?

        Maybe they should develope a certain way of delivering firearms. Something more secure. Of course it will cost more. But may be worth it.

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        • #19
          56Chevy
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 1872

          Originally posted by Vin496
          +10000

          They stole and illegally sold and put 100+ guns to more than likely violent criminals, and the most they can get is 5 years?

          WTF is that???

          Yet have a scary looking legal rifle and as has been seen around here, feel the full wrath of a local LEO department.
          We all know that those stolen guns won't be used in crimes. They will be turned in at the next handgun buyback.

          It's the guns bought legally from gun stores that we have to worry about. We also have to worry about the gun show loophole.

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          • #20
            rivviepop
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 2528

            Originally posted by The SoCal Gunner
            Police also recovered two loaded weapons hidden inside the steering wheel: a Bersa .380-caliber handgun, and a Bersa .40-caliber handgun, both also stolen from FedEx, authorities said.
            That's one big-a** steering wheel to hide two guns in...

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            • #21
              nobs11
              Banned
              • Jun 2008
              • 1381

              This is one of the reasons I always use USPS when shipping firearms. I know they are government employees and probably not the most prompt, but by and large, most postal workers are not corrupt. Also, USPS priority mail tends to be way faster than Fedex/UPS and often cheaper.

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              • #22
                RobG
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 4887

                Say it ain't so

                They were charged with conspiracy to possess and sell stolen firearms and face up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Gribko, who is prosecuting the case.
                Up to, but most likely MUCH less unless the feds nail them.

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                • #23
                  Steyr_223
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 9480

                  Originally posted by tankerman
                  How is it that this situation was was brought to the attention of LE by residents of a town and not by FEDEX? Does the shipper hava a legal obligation to notify LE when firearms are stolen?
                  Exactly! Shame on FedEx...Props to the person or individuals in the projects for doing the right thing and dropping a dime..

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                  • #24
                    CALI-gula
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7027

                    Police also recovered two loaded weapons hidden inside the steering wheel: a Bersa .380-caliber handgun, and a Bersa .40-caliber handgun, both also stolen from FedEx, authorities said.
                    Originally posted by rivviepop
                    That's one big-a** steering wheel to hide two guns in...
                    I caught that too, and I am thinking they removed the air-bag box, and put them in the hollowed space; both of those are small guns. I doubt most police officers would think to look in that area if it still had the air-bag center covering on the wheel. I assume it didn't look abnormal at all, and I don't think I would try to pry open an airbag unit for no reason on a regular traffic stop - but here, they had a reason to check; it's what they were looking for already. Interesting place to hide a gun though - LEO should keep that in mind.

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                    • #25
                      ZapThyCat
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2610

                      Personally, I'm shocked that these guys were caught, not by FEDEX who had these guns stolen, but by the people they were trying to sell them to. What kind of crap is that?

                      Couldn't they also get them on Grand theft too?
                      ~Jarrod~

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                      • #26
                        dwtt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7470

                        Originally posted by tankerman
                        How is it that this situation was was brought to the attention of LE by residents of a town and not by FEDEX? Does the shipper hava a legal obligation to notify LE when firearms are stolen?
                        I used to work at UPS during college unloading trucks and if FEDEX is like UPS, they are infatuated with efficiency and keeping costs down. When a gun shipment goes missing, FEDEX sees it as a financial loss since they have to pay for the shipment. They don't see it as possibly a gun ending up in the wrong hands. The recipient will likely notify the sender when the shipment doesn't come through, and then the sender should notify BATF, but that didn't seem to happen in this case.

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                        • #27
                          Ford8N
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6129

                          My UPS driver always knows what he is dropping off. The package is "Adult signature required".

                          He's a gunny too.

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                          • #28
                            Matt C
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 7128

                            Originally posted by Spiggy
                            WHAT!? THAT'S IT?
                            LOL, yeah and I was facing 90 years for having scary looking (but legal) guns...
                            I do not provide legal services or practice law (yet).

                            The troublemaker formerly known as Blackwater OPS.

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                            • #29
                              RossRinSD
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 2371

                              Were these actual delivery drivers?? I'm suprised they don't make 'drop off friends' on their route. My UPS guy where I worked last was awesome. We were on a first name basis, I hooked him up with sodas and lunches if he wanted.

                              You get a dishonest delivery guy who finds a dishonest receiver somewhere, and you're golden. But, that pretty much narrows it down to one guy..

                              But a dishonest warehouse guy and a dishonest delivery driver could do all sorts of damage and nobody could prove anything.

                              I just imagine a couple of milk toast saltines trying to sell guns in the hood. Doesn't seem like they fit in very well. Think of the three guys on Office Space trying to get the magazine salesman to launder their money...

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                              • #30
                                workinwifdakids

                                I just shipped my Mauser USPS to get reblued, and paid the extra dollar for "shipment tracking." What I got was nothing more than "delivery confirmation," which was actually "You can check USPS.com to see if it's been delivered." To this day USPS says the number has no record of being accepted, shipped, or delivered, and I was scared to death until the guy I shipped it to called to say he has it.

                                BATFE sent out some stuff with my C&R license that says a loooot of guns go missing in shipping.

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