Guard Card/Firearm Permit vs CCW

[CAguy]

I don't think so.

The PC is 26030; the applicable sub section is (a)(10) (Reformatted for clarity)

The 'en route' language does not allow for stopping for gas or lunch or hitting the Post Office. Normal observation will show this language is frequently ignored by guards.

I'm well aware of the law. I read the same thing you did and it dose not say anywhere that you can't stop anywhere along the way or stop off for lunch. Stopping for gas, food, drink is customary travel. You can also be running errands for your employer in a company vehicle and that is property you are protecting as is any property that you are purchasing/transporting on their behalf. If you happened to run into a dyck cop and they wanted to take the narrowed interpretation they could waste your time for a bit but nothing would happen in the end.

[CAguy]

while it's not specifically stated as allowable, im sure many guards do make "side stops" outside of their normal to-and-from work...I think they are taking a chance, and, if some overzealous LEO wants to press them on it, it could be a problem

me personally, when I see an armed guard, no matter where they are at, working or not working, I couldn't care at all in the least if they are on the job or not...im not sure if LE bothers with it either, really, why should they...to hassle a guy for making a stop between home and work would seem like a waste of time

I asked my son what type of instructions was he given during his class for his carry permit...other than telling him he could be armed to and from work, they never really touched based on how much restrictions there were, concerning a 7-11 stop or something similar

They don't ever ask about the travel habits and work schedules. They will sometimes ask for credentials (guard card w/firearm endorsement) and that will be that 99.9% of the time. Your not even obligated (legally) to tell them your travel habits and work scheduled, only to show you are legally allowed to carry (guard card w/endorsement) upon demand. Nothing further is required.

[Librarian]

I'm well aware of the law. I read the same thing you did and it dose not say anywhere that you can't stop anywhere along the way or stop off for lunch. Stopping for gas, food, drink is customary travel. You can also be running errands for your employer in a company vehicle and that is property you are protecting as is any property that you are purchasing/transporting on their behalf. If you happened to run into a dyck cop and they wanted to take the narrowed interpretation they could waste your time for a bit but nothing would happen in the end.

Then we read "en route to or from their residences or their places of employment" differently.

Since the violations of the narrow reading are legion, and evidently BSIS has not seen fit to clarify, perhaps you are right ( ETA see posts below ).

[Zedrek]

According to the application it says directly en route which I read as not stopping for gas, food, or porn.

5. Read carefully before signing below: I understand that my firearm permit will authorize me to carry an exposed loaded firearm of the caliber(s) listed on my permit only while on duty or while directly en route to or from my home, to my worksite or a firearm range (PC 26030(a)(10) & PC 25540). I also understand that as a private patrol operator licensee, registered security guard, alarm agent, or alarm qualified manager, I shall not use or wear an exposed firearm unless I am wearing a uniform. At all other times, the firearm shall be unloaded and kept in a locked container during the course of travel (PC 25610 (a)(1) and (2)). If not wearing a uniform, the firearm must be unloaded and locked during the course of travel. Persons authorized to carry a concealed weapon are exempt from these requirements.

[Librarian]

Thank you, Zedrek; I hadn't seen the app.

But BSIS does have a FIREARMS TRAINING MANUAL that says

Carrying the Weapon on Duty. (Transportation of Weapon)
In a safe area, inspect the firearm and ammunition for defects before going on duty. When on duty, the firearm must remain properly holstered at all times. Do not neutralize the safety features of the holster. Do not remove the firearm to show, compare, or demonstrate the weapon or to threaten with it.
Note: PC 26030 (a)(10) allows a guard with a firearm permit and in uniform to carry a loaded firearm while in direct route to and from their residence and place of employment or to employer-required range training. A guard may not make any stops while in route.

So, I was mistaken posting that BSIS had not clarified.

[Sky_DiveR]

You can't CCW as a guard....

Armed Bodyguards, Executive Protection, or Close Personal Protection requires both a CCW and a Guard Card/Firearm Permit.

You can also CCW if you have permission from your employer.