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  • #61
    6266guy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1473

    O.K. I need to add my two cents here...it's really bad when you land a hot one right in the sweet spot between your wifes breast ...and she is wearing a low cut top!...funny thing is...she took it without bitc*en...how do you like them apples, then I really knew she was a keeper

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    • #62
      drdl
      Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 230

      It's not pleasant to get hit with hot brass but when you do, know that the guy is not doing it intentionally. Do what you can within reason to avoid getting hit and try not to bother the guy for something he didn't do purposely.

      If someone complains to you about getting hit with your brass, know that he's a p***y for complaining but also know that hot brass does not feel good on the skin. Do what you can within reason to avoid hitting him.

      Try to make going to the range a good experience for everybody.

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      • #63
        ENTHUSIAST
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 4440

        Originally posted by drdl
        If someone complains to you about getting hit with your brass, know that he's a p***y for complaining but also know that hot brass does not feel good on the skin. Do what you can within reason to avoid hitting him.

        Try to make going to the range a good experience for everybody.


        nuff said

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        • #64
          liketoshoot
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3810

          Originally posted by 6266guy
          O.K. I need to add my two cents here...it's really bad when you land a hot one right in the sweet spot between your wifes breast ...and she is wearing a low cut top!...funny thing is...she took it without bitc*en...how do you like them apples, then I really knew she was a keeper
          and how long were you fishing around tring to get the brass out?
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          • #65
            ocabj
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7924

            It doesn't matter who was at what bench first. You should prevent your brass from going towards other shooters, whether it be the bench directly adjacent to you, or in the case of Mini-14 shooters, the shooter 8 benches over.

            Calling someone a wuss because they don't like getting hit by brass isn't a very fair assessment.

            It is distracting. When I'm trying to practice my 200 yard standing, it's irritating when someone to my left is just blasting away with an autoloader where the brass is ejecting into my back. Even HP competitors make sure their ejector/extractor setup places brass to a 4-5 o'clock position so it's not an issue in a match.

            Brass hitting the adjacent shooter is also discourteous. If you don't make an effort to prevent your brass from going to adjacent shooting lanes, for one, you aren't showing respect for the space of others. I use a TC-Accessories brass deflector so all my brass falls right in front of me. It's easy for me to get my brass that way. But when someone to my left doesn't want to use a brass deflector, net, or some other device, and it is ejecting into me, that means the brass is getting mixed up with mine. That's making my brass policing more annoying since I have to sort through the brass. Then you get the idiot that decides to sweep up his brass along with mine and toss it in the trash (but that's another issue altogether).

            Not to mention the fact that lots of AR and AK shooters use Wolf steel case ammo, when hitting another person's shooting area, will scratch up their property.

            But overall, you should prevent your brass from hitting the shooter adjacent to you because it is so simple to do. There are so many different methods that one will work.

            Overhead cover? Net.

            Bench? Prop up a board with sandbags on the bench, use a toolbox, ammo can, rifle case, shooting bag, etc., between the ejection port and the adjacent shooter.

            AR? Get a brass deflector.

            Or tune the extractor so it goes to 4-5 o'clock.

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            NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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            • #66
              Greg-Dawg
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              Just be aware of your environment...especially the complainers.

              Personally, I don't mind getting hit with brass. It reminds me of my favorite spot.

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              • #67
                Pvt. Cowboy
                Banned
                • Oct 2006
                • 2688

                Originally posted by bwiese
                Suggested etiquette:

                - if you arrived later than the person being hit by brass, try to
                move to another shooting position (depends on crowding) to
                get a tad of isolation;
                Indeed. I have said some things to other shooters at a range from time to time, but one I remember most was a guy who brought an Armalite AR-50 two tables over and set his little chair at the end of the table so that the muzzle brake was right next to my head. Before he even sat down, I mentioned that he needed to go far down to the other side of the empty firing line and shoot. One empty table isn't going to be anywhere near far enough for that cannon. Rangemaster was already walking over saying something to him by the time I spoke.

                We got a Beavis and Butthead 'huh huh huh, I'm shooting it for the first time...' from him and he said that he agreed that it wasn't such a good idea after all.

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                • #68
                  dilligaffrn
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 635

                  Originally posted by Stanze
                  Tell em' to turn in their man card and STFU.

                  Seriously, it's a range. What's next? The big bad gun is too loud?

                  Your lead is contaminating my air?

                  Effing crybabies.
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                  • #69
                    USN CHIEF
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11540

                    What Stanze said.
                    Originally posted by tankerman
                    I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
                    Originally posted by Douglas711
                    Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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                    • #70
                      renardsubtil
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1659

                      The only time I've ever felt very obligated to move due to my firearm issuing flailing brass was because the guy next to me was doing blackpowder and kindly explained to me that the powder keg may go boom if hawt brass ended up in it
                      "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."

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                      • #71
                        Sniper3142
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2004
                        • 2579

                        Originally posted by ocabj
                        It doesn't matter who was at what bench first. You should prevent your brass from going towards other shooters, whether it be the bench directly adjacent to you, or in the case of Mini-14 shooters, the shooter 8 benches over.

                        Calling someone a wuss because they don't like getting hit by brass isn't a very fair assessment.
                        EPIC FAIL!!

                        Hand over your Man Card ASAP (assuming you had one to begin with).

                        I learned to shoot in the USMC and just like the other saying goes, brass happens. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to accomodate people who aren't properly prepared to use a rifle range. Dress accordingly and have situational awareness.

                        If the range has screens or brass catchers / deflectors to use, I have no problem setting one up if asked to, however I do not use one out of habit usually and don't expect others to either.

                        I try not to be rude to fellow shooters at a range and will usually try to position myself where I don't cause a problem for anyone else. If however, due to a lack of space or whatever, I have to be in a spot where my brass will hit someone else, and no brass catcher or screen is available... well, it is a shooting range after all and everyone should know what to expect.

                        Do you also go to a beach and not expect to get hit with sand?!?

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                        • #72
                          Beelzy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 9224

                          C'mon people, it isn't really a rang trip unless you get a brass burn.
                          I had one of my own cases from an M1 carbine hit me right dead center
                          in my eye. Burnt a line on my contact lens.

                          Had a chap hear me burn myself on 1919 casings and he laughed. When he
                          fired the 1919 and went to pick up some errant casings and burned himself
                          I laughed back.

                          As for kids and hot brass, mine knew the first range trip. Stay away from Dad,
                          or anyone else shooting a gun that "spits". Kids need to learn about the "burn".
                          "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                          • #73
                            ocabj
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7924

                            Originally posted by Sniper3142
                            EPIC FAIL!!

                            Hand over your Man Card ASAP (assuming you had one to begin with).

                            I learned to shoot in the USMC and just like the other saying goes, brass happens. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to accomodate people who aren't properly prepared to use a rifle range. Dress accordingly and have situational awareness.

                            If the range has screens or brass catchers / deflectors to use, I have no problem setting one up if asked to, however I do not use one out of habit usually and don't expect others to either.

                            I try not to be rude to fellow shooters at a range and will usually try to position myself where I don't cause a problem for anyone else. If however, due to a lack of space or whatever, I have to be in a spot where my brass will hit someone else, and no brass catcher or screen is available... well, it is a shooting range after all and everyone should know what to expect.

                            Do you also go to a beach and not expect to get hit with sand?!?

                            I am so sick of the use of the "man card" terminology on this board. Is this some kind of new Internet meme?

                            "Brass happens", yes. But the ability to prevent your auto loader ejection at a public rifle range is so simple that it should be automatically done.

                            And what's the point of bringing up that you learned how to shoot in the Marines. Just because I taught myself to shoot doesn't mean that I do not understand shooting any less or more than you.

                            My point in my prior response is that it's not difficult to be courteous to others in so much as to block your brass from hitting the adjacent bench.

                            And just to cite an opinion of a Marine, since it appears you may value that opinion more than mine, here is an excerpt from an article by Jim Owens regarding ejector/extractor and brass etiquette:

                            If you have a rifle that consistently flips fired cases on the adjoining shooter you should get a gunsmith to adjust the extractor and ejector. The M1 Garand and AR-15 are notorious for this problem. The other alternative is to request the right-most firing point on the line. - http://www.jarheadtop.com
                            Hurling insults at a person for not being a 'man' enough to handle getting pelted by brass is childish. But if saying I was never a 'man' to begin with makes you feel superior to me, then go ahead and retain that attitude.

                            Distinguished Rifleman #1924
                            NRA Certified Instructor (Rifle and Metallic Cartridge Reloading) and RSO
                            NRL22 Match Director at WEGC

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                            • #74
                              SchooBaka
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1141

                              Last time I went to Los Altos, I was there shooting the sks for at least a half hour when I saw this guy setting up a couple benches to the right of me.
                              The sks was flingling brass up and bouncing off the roof to land right where he was setting up.
                              I said, hey, this thing is fling'n some brass that way, and pointed to all my brass around the bench he was setting up at.
                              He said, No problem.
                              I shot for at least an hour more and never heard him complain.
                              I don't know if they had the deflection screens then, but I probably would have grabbed one and set it up if I knew they were there.
                              If I was getting hit with brass after setting up next to someone already firing semi auto, I wouldn't complain.
                              On the other had, if I was already setup and shooting, and someone came along and started nailing me with brass, I may or may not say something; depending on my mood and what kind of shooting I was doing.

                              Anyways, proper range etiquette is just common sense.
                              Just use the golden rule.
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                              • #75
                                ibanezfoo
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 12092

                                Originally posted by kurac
                                So I was at the rifle range the other day and had a two other shooter complain about my brass hitting them. One guy handed me a .223 shell and said "this hit me in the neck"

                                One of the complainers was shooting an M1 Garand which was also throwing brass all over the place.

                                So my question is, am I responsible for where my brass lands or should other shooters be aware that they are at a shooting range which will have hot brass and other things should take steps to protect themselves from it?


                                Edited to add: Sorry for posting it the wrong forum, how do I move it?
                                I learned about this with my Mini14 ranch. The guys next to me were just laughing about it and were cool but I realized what I was doing and moved so I didn't hit them. No sense in ruining someone else's shots by pelting them with my spent brass. I would probably be annoyed if someone kept hitting me with their hot brass.

                                -Bryan
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