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  • Psychbiker
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1671

    Small of Back Holster?

    I havent carried aside from some shooting matches. When I get my CCW I'd like to carry in the small of my back.

    From the holsters I've seen, all have the gun upside down. That means your hand has to be palm open facing your back which strains the shoulder and seems awkward.

    Any holsters like this below? I's like the muzzle down more than sideways. Seem easy to slide the hand along the back to grab the grip and pull out.

  • #2
    troysland
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2182

    How's this setup? Or is it what you're trying to avoid? Notice he's wearing a LH IWB holster. It seems more natural for a right hand draw. I use a Galco Sto n go for my Kahr and also carry @ 6 o'clock. But I use a RH and it can be awkward putting your Palm facing your back. A more natural movement is your Palm facing away from your back, as a LH holster will provide, shown below.
    Originally posted by Colonel David Crockett
    "Ya'll can go to hell, I'm goin' to Texas!"

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    • #3
      ElToro
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 721

      i think the guy that used to own Contra Costa collectibles in Walnut Creek broke his back when he was rear ended and in his car with a SOB gun in a holster. be careful.

      I used to carry my 442 in one when i worked at a quickie mart in college. boss was cool with it. never had to use it thankfuly

      in general try to position it so you dont have to turn your hand if that makes sense, either way you likely have to sweep your body with the muzzle unless you can learn to draw with the muzzle down and keep it down till its downrange

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      • #4
        jyo
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 5314

        I was given a Don Holme small-of-back holster for the Kahr P9, CW9, etc.---with my very lightweight and slim CW9 in it, it was pretty comfortable as long as you were standing---sitting or bending over foreword, not so good---in fact this was a deal breaker for me. This same Don Holme holster also has a belt loop for OWB conventional right hip carry---this under a long pull-over Polo type shirt turned out best for me---so thin and light, you do forget it's even there...

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        • #5
          Rosereader
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 805

          My favorite style of concealed holster is basically a sleeve that fits on the inside of the waistband. Looks like "mexican" carry but is more solid. Could easily wear something like that in the back.

          I just like it because it allows me to hide my "full sized" pistol under a regular T-shirt. When I get my license my Hi-Power is going with me in that fashion.
          So I was driving home from the range and I noticed that the scent of warm steel, burnt gunpowder and lukewarm coffee combined and smelled oddly of... Peanut butter?! Man, the Hoppe's is going to my head.


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          What do you consider long range?
          Take half of a binocular, tape it to your rifle.

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          • #6
            TKM
            Onward through the fog!
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 10657

            Just asking for lower back injuries.

            From a TC all the way down to slip and fall.
            It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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            • #7
              bsg
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2009
              • 25954

              carrying a handgun in a mob/sob holster conceals well from the front when you're standing in an upright position; the good begins and ends there.

              should you fall backward and onto the ground with holstered handgun, the risk of back/spinal injury is enough to rule out a mob/sob holster as a viable system of carry. tc offers risk of same injury potential.

              should you reach down or lean forward, your mob/sob concealed carry may no longer be concealed to those that would observe. should your holstered handgun print and give your concealed carry status away, it would be easier for a bad guy to take your handgun from the mob/sob position than from other carry positions. should you find yourself in a physical altercation, it could very well be easier for the bad guy to reach and obtain your handgun than for you to do so when it is in the mob/sob position.

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              • #8
                mstlaurent
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1408

                Originally posted by bsg
                carrying a handgun in a mob/sob holster conceals well from the front when you're standing in an upright position; the good begins and ends there.

                should you fall backward and onto the ground with holstered handgun, the risk of back/spinal injury is enough to rule out a mob/sob holster as a viable system of carry. tc offers risk of same injury potential.

                should you reach down or lean forward, your mob/sob concealed carry may no longer be concealed to those that would observe. should your holstered handgun print and give your concealed carry status away, it would be easier for a bad guy to take your handgun from the mob/sob position than from other carry positions. should you find yourself in a physical altercation, it could very well be easier for the bad guy to reach and obtain your handgun than for you to do so when it is in the mob/sob position.
                Additionally, if you wind up on your back in a physical altercation, not only do you risk injury, but now your handgun is pinned underneath you and it will be remarkably difficult to draw.

                If 3 o'clock carry is uncomfortable for you (as it is for me), try 4 o'clock with an FBI cant. I find it much more comfortable (especially in the car) and also much more concealable.
                I've never seen an American flag burned at a gun show.

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                • #9
                  Supertac916
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 2423

                  I have one of those holsters that sits in my closet with a bunch of other holsters. It's a pain in the back, when you're sitting in the car for extended periods of time. In the event you need to draw from a seated position, you're SOL. It leaves you having to unholster your gun and put it in the center console or in the glove for comfort and easy access in the event of a potential car jacking. You put yourself with more opportunities of a ND, if you have to unholster, reholster, or adjust the firearm for comfort. Lastly, if you find yourself having to unholster and reholster regularly, it's only a matter of time before some soccer Mom walks by as she's getting into her car next to you and see's you with a gun.

                  I prefer a 4 O'clock IWB or OWB holster depending on my clothing. That's just my .02 though.

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                  • #10
                    003
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3436

                    I don’t’ doubt that some folks, (mainly Hollywood actors making actions films have carried firearms in the small of their back) but trust me, it is the most uncomfortable and without a doubt just about the worst way to carry a firearm possible. While it may look cool, I can guarantee that you will not do it for long. Just about impossible to sit in a chair of any kind, or drive without serious discomfort or back pain.

                    Spend the money and try it, you will then have something to sell at the next gun show you attend.
                    Last edited by 003; 03-20-2014, 8:06 PM.

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                    • #11
                      NapalmCheese
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5953

                      Of all the people I know, cops tend to wear the most crap on their belts.
                      Cops these days are going away from carrying anything on the small of their back (seems to me it was pretty common to put the cuffs there) as lots of cops have developed chronic back issues due to having something press against their spine 8 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week.

                      Read up on small of the back holsters and you'll see the same anecdotal 'evidence'. It's just something else to be aware of.
                      Calguns.net, where everyone responding to your post is a Navy Force Delta Recon 6 Sniperator.

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                      • #12
                        voiceofreason
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 3785

                        Any inside the waistband holster with a very extreme cant should be fine for you

                        I'd recommend drawing with the Palm facing your back as opposed to away from your back because there is a high probability you'll flag yourself as you draw in a high stress situation palm away

                        As mentioned before if you slip and fall, fall on your back, bend over while wearing tighter clothing, you'll likely regret carrying in that fashion

                        3 o'clock to 330 carry works best for most body types, Much better weapons retention as well

                        Most instructors that have a lot of range time and experience recommend not going with small Of back Kerry
                        "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                        John Quincy Adams

                        "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                        voiceofreason

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                        • #13
                          voiceofreason
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3785

                          In my humble opinion

                          The picture posted at the top of this thread is an example of a gun show disaster of a holster waiting to get somebody killed or hurt

                          Spend money on a quality Holster made of leather by TT Gunleather, Milt Sparks

                          Or a kydex if that works for you for concealment,

                          I know a lot of people that swear by the hybrid holsters, although i find them comfortable I prefer a holster with either reinforced mouth or all Kydex in which I carry holster easily with one hand


                          Driving with a piece behind her back in that position would appear to be very uncomfortable as well
                          "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                          John Quincy Adams

                          "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                          voiceofreason

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                          • #14
                            hks95134
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 959

                            Originally posted by TKM
                            Just asking for lower back injuries.

                            From a TC all the way down to slip and fall.
                            TKM is right.

                            Not only that, but you are asking for pickpockets too.

                            Besides, it will take you at least an extra second to draw from a back carry.

                            My draw-and-fire time is less than 1 second from an open Western holster;

                            1 second from a military holster;

                            1 1/2 seconds from a concealed hip holster.

                            Lower back is a really bad place to carry for at least 3 reasons -- injury / delay in drawing / and pickpocketing.

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                            • #15
                              hks95134
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 959

                              Originally posted by voiceofreason
                              In my humble opinion

                              The picture posted at the top of this thread is an example of a gun show disaster of a holster waiting to get somebody killed or hurt

                              Spend money on a quality Holster made of leather by TT Gunleather, Milt Sparks

                              Or a kydex if that works for you for concealment,

                              I know a lot of people that swear by the hybrid holsters, although i find them comfortable I prefer a holster with either reinforced mouth or all Kydex in which I carry holster easily with one hand


                              Driving with a piece behind her back in that position would appear to be very uncomfortable as well
                              Exactly.

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