Shipping Ammo

[corvett1214]

Just wondering how can you ship ammo if sold to other privately?
Thanks in advance for any information.

[easy]

Just mark ORM-D on outside of package, add shipping info. Do NOT use USPS! UPS, FEDEX ok.

[corvett1214]

What does ORM-D mean? Thanks

[The Cable Guy]

What does ORM-D mean? Thanks

Just means you're shipping out hazardous, or potentially hazardous materials.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORM-D for more details.

We slap these stickers on shipments that contain pressurized substances at my work.

[corvett1214]

Great info. Thanks alot

[Mssr. Eleganté]

You can print up a sheet of these labels to use...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=54456

[EOD Guy]

What does ORM-D mean? Thanks

It's a Department of Transportation hazard class and stands for Other Regulated Material - D. The "D" doen't mean anything. There used to be 5 subdivisions of the ORM hazard class, A through E. When the hazardous materials table was revised a few years ago, the other subdivisions were integrated into other hazard classes.

ORM-D is only used in domestic transportation, usually by highway or rail. Material reclassed as ORM-D has several exemptions to marking, labeling and shipping paper requirements and that's why most shippers do not assess a hazmat fee when shipping such material.

ORM-D is, however, still a hazardous material and is subject to the hazardous materials regulations.

Just wondering how can you ship ammo if sold to other privately?
Thanks in advance for any information.

Here are the DOT regulations for shipping small arms ammunition as ORM-D:

Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173

173.63 Packaging exceptions

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices. (1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:

(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are used to project fastening devices.

(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

Part 172 (Marking)

172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side than the designation.

(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter.

[smle-man]

UPS also requires that you write small arms ammunition on the box. The package overall must not weigh more than 66 lbs. You can write ORM-D if you like on the box, a label isn't required. The UPS office in San Fernando is very cooperative on shipping firearms and ammo if you are in the north L.A. area.

[azndmd]

OK... UPS/FEDEX = good to ship ammo.

but what is the issue with USPS..just curious.

[christopher6968]

OK... UPS/FEDEX = good to ship ammo.

but what is the issue with USPS..just curious.

USPS will not knowingly ship hazardous materials. We (my work) can't even ship non-regulated lithium batteries through them

[bohoki]

wow so i guess you cant ship that miwall stuff that comes in loose in the cans

[Fate]

The UPS office in San Fernando is very cooperative on shipping firearms and ammo if you are in the north L.A. area.

Probably because I've shipped a LOT of them thru there