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Default "Limited Quantity" and ORM-D Labels For Shipping Ammo - Updated for 2011

- Updated thread for new rules in 2011 -

ORM-D labels are being phased out by DOT in order to harmonize U.S. shipping rules with United Nations standards. Here's the new "Limited Quantity" label to be used on ammo shipments from now on...



The good news is the new label doesn't have any indicator that the package contains ammunition. The bad news is the new label is gigantic compared to the old ORM-D label.

Here is a link to a PDF file for a sheet of these "Limited Quantity" labels. You are required to use one of the larger labels on one side of any package containing ammunition. If the package is too small for one of the larger labels then you are permitted to use one of the smaller labels instead. Because of the size requirement in the regulations, you only get two of each label on standard piece of printer paper...

http://www.type03.net/ammo/limitedquantity.pdf

You can continue to use the old ORM-D "Cartridges, Small Arms" labels until December 31, 2020 if you wish. So I will leave the original post below unchanged until then...

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If anybody needs ORM-D labels to ship ammo, here are a few versions to download and print out. They are in PDF format and arranged with several labels per page so you won't waste paper. The black version and blue version look just like the labels you buy from shipping supply companies, but they will probably kill your printer's ink cartridge. So only print those out at work. The white version uses much less ink.


SHEET OF BLACK LABELS



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SHEET OF WHITE LABELS
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Does UPS charge more to ship when they see this lable?
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Nope, same price as regular UPS Ground, you just have to drop off the package at a UPS "Customer Service Center" (aka a distrbution hub where all their trucks rendezvous at) because it's considered the lowest level hazmat.
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Nope, same price as regular UPS Ground, you just have to drop off the package at a UPS "Customer Service Center" (aka a distrbution hub where all their trucks rendezvous at) because it's considered the lowest level hazmat.
So you cant take it to a UPS store? or is that a customer service center?
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Nah, most "UPS Stores" won't accept ORM-D (although I've heard some don't know any better and take it anyways) because UPS Policy is that it has to go to an official UPS "Customer Service Center" which is like their distribution hub - they're two different entities.
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Nah, most "UPS Stores" won't accept ORM-D (although I've heard some don't know any better and take it anyways) because UPS Policy is that it has to go to an official UPS "Customer Service Center" which is like their distribution hub - they're two different entities.
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great post, thanks!
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great post, thanks!

+1 Thanks. Man I miss DHL.
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+1 Thanks. Man I miss DHL.
Why do you miss DHL? They did not allow the shipment of firearms, firearms parts, or ammunition. They included firearms parts in the same category as pornography and illegal drugs in their terms of service/tariff.
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this is what Im looking for HA thanks for the posting
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I just shipped ammo using ups on Monday. I had to use a UPS hub. I wrote on the box ORM-D with a marker. I didnt need a sticker. The guy told me that I had to write small arms ammunition on all four sides of the box. He also asked if it was loose ammo, and I told him that it was in the original boxes. After that it was good to go.
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Ive shipped ammo at the ups store plenty of times...all depends on if the clerk isnt a *****
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Great post. I didn't want to buy a whole sheet in case I don't use it all. I was told at a UPS store that it can only be shipped from a hub only also.
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When I shipped my ammo, I used (they were just stapled to the crate) the ORM-D stickers off of a case of ammo from CMP.
Instead of saying CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS the CMP's stickers said CONSUMER COMMIDITY and looked like this http://www.uline.com/Product/Product...x?model=S-1077
The guy at the UPS Store said it was fine.
So which one is correct??
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The MOST important thing.
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...Instead of saying CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS the CMP's stickers said CONSUMER COMMIDITY...So which one is correct?
The stickers that say "CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS" are the correct ORM-D stickers for shipping small arms cartridges. The "CONSUMER COMMODITY" ORM-D stickers are for use on packages that meet the "consumer commodity" exemption, like small amounts of hair spray or perfume. Federal regulations require you to use the correct sticker, even though the shipping company will probably let you get away with using the wrong one.

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(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material.
The "proper shipping name" of ammo that's packaged in a way to get the ORM-D exemption is "CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS", so that is what you are required to put on the package.


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Either should be fine.

http://ntl.bts.gov/DOCS/hmtg.html
The link you provided is to an 18 year old version of the regulations. It is out of date. But even it says either label is not fine....

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VI. OTHER REGULATED MATERIALS (ORM's) (49 CFR 172.316)

A. Place the appropriate ORM designation immediately
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The stickers that say "CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS" are the correct ORM-D stickers for shipping small arms cartridges. The "CONSUMER COMMODITY" ORM-D stickers are for use on packages that meet the "consumer commodity" exemption, like small amounts of hair spray or perfume. Federal regulations require you to use the correct sticker, even though the shipping company will probably let you get away with using the wrong one.



The "proper shipping name" of ammo that's packaged in a way to get the ORM-D exemption is "CARTRIDGES, SMALL ARMS", so that is what you are required to put on the package.




The link you provided is to an 18 year old version of the regulations. It is out of date. But even it says either label is not fine....
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is primed brass under the ORM-D "consumer commodity" label?

i asked USPS and they didn't know, they told me to check their website which was a PITA.
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is primed brass under the ORM-D "consumer commodity" label?

i asked USPS and they didn't know, they told me to check their website which was a PITA.
Strangely, primed brass doesn't need any kind of label at all for domestic shipping. There is a special DOT provision that says primed brass is not regulated. So you can ship them via UPS or FedEX or FedEx Ground without any special labels at all.

However, I am of the opinion that it is still forbidden to ship via the USPS because they have a separate regulation forbidding the mailing of primers "associated" with small arms ammunition. Other very knowledgeable Calgunners disagree with me on this and feel that the USPS uses DOT guidelines for determining what can be shipped. Here is the USPS regulation in question...

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Nonmailable explosives include, but are not limited to, the following...

c. Small Arms Ammunition. Ammunition is classified as a Division 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, or 1.4 explosive, depending on the degree of hazard. Ammunition that is regulated as a Class 1 explosive and designed to be fired from a pistol, revolver, rifle, or shotgun, as well as associated primers and blank cartridges (including those designed for tools) and propellant powder for use in any firearm, is prohibited from mailing.
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However, I am of the opinion that it is still forbidden to ship via the USPS because they have a separate regulation forbidding the mailing of primers "associated" with small arms ammunition. Other very knowledgeable Calgunners disagree with me on this and feel that the USPS uses DOT guidelines for determining what can be shipped. Here is the USPS regulation in question...
My postmaster said "associated primers" meant primers for small arms ammunition. If you are mailing primed, empty cases, you're OK. They don't want other cap type primers such as blasting caps. He had an internal letter he showed me. I couldn't get a copy of it because it's "government property".

For all my ammo shipments I ship with the letters "ORM-D" written on 4 sides plus the label with a black Sharpie marker. Stickers are expensive.
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For all my ammo shipments I ship with the letters "ORM-D" written on 4 sides plus the label with a black Sharpie marker. Stickers are expensive.
Sharpies are expensive too, so why all four sides?
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So just about any way it sits on the truck they will be able to look to see the package contents and be aware of it. Also any package over 25lbs I write HEAVY on all four sides plus the top.
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Excellent post! Will be needing these next week. Thanks again.
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Can we Sticky this thread?
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No need to print labels. All I've ever done is use a 'Sharpie' and write ORM-D on each side in large letters. No need to waste money on labels.
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Bumping this thread for the update.

You don't need to get rid of your old ORM-D labels just yet, but you can start using the new "Limited Quantity" labels now if you want.
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I 2nd the sticky request. I don't want to search next time I ship...
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Yes definitely. Thanks for sharing.

So a quick question. For your downloadable PDFs, did you spec them for any particular Avery standard (the label maker)? Would love to print directly to a label sheet to make this an easy backup solution.
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...For your downloadable PDFs, did you spec them for any particular Avery standard (the label maker)? Would love to print directly to a label sheet to make this an easy backup solution.
No, I don't know anything about that kind of thing. I just made the PDF 8.5x11 inches and tried to leave enough blank space at each end for those printers that cut off the bottom or top 1/2 inch. I just cut the labels out and tape them onto the boxes with clear packing tape.

For any kind of volume use it would be much cheaper to just buy a roll of the pre-printed sticky labels from a shipping supply company.
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How do you even hear about these changes? What was it like before calguns?
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No, I don't know anything about that kind of thing. I just made the PDF 8.5x11 inches and tried to leave enough blank space at each end for those printers that cut off the bottom or top 1/2 inch. I just cut the labels out and tape them onto the boxes with clear packing tape.

For any kind of volume use it would be much cheaper to just buy a roll of the pre-printed sticky labels from a shipping supply company.
They also make full-sheet labels. Just print em out and cut em up.
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