Transfer Fee too high

[uechikid]

You might call Kevin Smith. Last I heard he charged $50 to accept an out of state transfer.
Smith, Kevin
259 Morello Ave
Martinez, CA. 94553
(925) 229-2553

Also, I think Cordelia Gun Exchange is about the same.
Cordelia Gun Exchange
4733 Central Way
Fairfield, CA 94534

[TKM]

Sorry, but that thread is 3 years old, do you really think those prices are still in effect today?

The price of gas, milk and bread has risen too in case anyone wasn't aware...

I guarantee we'll never know until somebody calls.

Our local guy charges the same as he did three years ago.

[El Toro]

Try looking a little bit harder for an FFL that will handle your out of state transfers for a price point that you think is reasonable. I have done a lot of out-of-state buys including SSE and I would never use Turners or most of the local gun shops. I have about three sources including a home based FFL that charge $50-$85 includimg DROS. One of my FFLs recently told me he is setup to do SSE and would charge a flat $100 for transfer, DROS, and conversion. That's $25 cheaper than one of the well-known SSE FFLs I have just down the street from me. Most out-of-state FFLs still only charge shipping. Some add $10 because its California. I refuse to do business with anyone that does that.

[alfred1222]

You're in SF, so whatever shops I send you to in SJ, despite being cheaper on cost, will get to $100+ if you factor in gas

[Mitch]

I pay 62 at my local gun store. It sucks when other states pay like 10 bucks max for a transfer and In CA we have to pay half the price of the gun.

Is that what FFLs in other states charge? Why do California FFLs whine about making on $10 on a PPT?

[tonyxcom]

Fairfield Pawn charges $20 plus DROS.

But you will pay $10 in toll each time you drive there. So $40 plus DROS.

[-hanko]

You can find an ffl...

...on the BATFE website. Enter your zip code and make some calls.

hth

-hanko

[Standard]

Yeah, transfer fees are PITA. They add considerable cost to the gun.

I'm lucky to have a home-based FFL near me that only charges $50 total.

[tamalpias]

Is that what FFLs in other states charge? Why do California FFLs whine about making on $10 on a PPT?

As a business owner in California (not a gun shop owner) I can attest to the following. Minimum wage is 10.15 per hour in San Jose, plus employee comp insurance, and SSI even if you pay somebody minimum wage you are technically dedicating 20 minutes of that employee's time to do the transfer. Now factor in rent and all the other taxes and licensing that shop employee has to generate at least $40 minimum just to break even. I will guarantee you every shop who has done a breakdown of how much time is involved and a cost analysis on these PPT will say they are losing money on these transactions.

Other hidden costs you don't see are the time spent organizing the paperwork, keeping and storing all the required documents, and the time spent when they get audited by the DOJ.

I have witnessed PPT where the buying party did not have the now required documents that prove residency like current bills and they where there for over an hour trying to search emails for electronic bills.

I don't fault the gun shop owners who try to recuperate some of their costs. I liken their displeasure to having you walk into a restaurant with all the ingredients you bought elsewhere and asking them to cook it for you. They can't compete with pricing from another gun shop that could be operating online out of their garage in the Midwest somewhere.

[ptoguy2002]

Welcome to California
1-Higher cost of business all around, labor, property, rent, etc
2-FFL's in other states don't have all the hoops that CA FFL's do. FFL's in CA probably spend 20 times the amount of time on paperwork and BS than out of state FFL's do.
3-CA FFL's have to hold your gun for 10 days. That is worth something too. The good ones will have insurance for it while it is there. The cheap ones don't. I'd wager your home based FFL sure as heck doesn't.
4-The wonderful thing about capitalism is that if you don't like the price, you can go elsewhere. If everybody has too high a price, then start your own business doing it. If you do, you'd be wise to mind points 1 through 3.

[sfhondapilot]

Give Mike a call.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=879927

[Henryoak]

Give Craig at PACWEST a call.

He just did my FFL and the price was very good - around what your max is. 909-237-4582

He's in Yorba Linda, CA.

[truwarier]

As a business owner in California (not a gun shop owner) I can attest to the following. Minimum wage is 10.15 per hour in San Jose, plus employee comp insurance, and SSI even if you pay somebody minimum wage you are technically dedicating 20 minutes of that employee's time to do the transfer. Now factor in rent and all the other taxes and licensing that shop employee has to generate at least $40 minimum just to break even. I will guarantee you every shop who has done a breakdown of how much time is involved and a cost analysis on these PPT will say they are losing money on these transactions.

Other hidden costs you don't see are the time spent organizing the paperwork, keeping and storing all the required documents, and the time spent when they get audited by the DOJ.

I have witnessed PPT where the buying party did not have the now required documents that prove residency like current bills and they where there for over an hour trying to search emails for electronic bills.

I don't fault the gun shop owners who try to recuperate some of their costs. I liken their displeasure to having you walk into a restaurant with all the ingredients you bought elsewhere and asking them to cook it for you. They can't compete with pricing from another gun shop that could be operating online out of their garage in the Midwest somewhere.

Unless you're buying a handgun the bills or the vehicle registration is not needed. However, many LGS don't know that and end up wasting their own time doing it.

[geoint]

Might just flying to your brothers and giving him the guns be cheaper? Flying with firearms isn't as difficult as most people think. Just get a good container for the trip and a pair of locks.

[MrExel17]

About right in my area too..Bay Area. Now if you try to go more South might be cheaper then you will have to account for gas & time! 0.02