Moving to Berkeley or Oakland - Specific Advice?

[lachesis]

Alright, let's try this again.

I posted a thread Moving to San Francisco - specific advice? back in October of last year, and got a bunch of great advice. Well, now it's official: I'm moving to the bay area, but it looks like I'll be living in Berkeley (most likely) or Oakland.

This is mostly a repeat of my previous questions, but targeted for Berkeley instead of SF. I'm sorry to be so dense, but in my current state, we have complete state firearm law preemption, so there are none of these local laws to worry about.

I'm bringing my CZ P-01, my Palmetto State Armory AR-15 (with Raddlock), my new Ruger SR22, and probably my Radom P-64.

Questions:

1. Can I bring my 14 and 30 round magazines (disassembled)? It seems like the answer is no as of January 1st, 2014.
2. When I move into the state, I know that I need to complete this form. It appears that I only need to pay $19, even if I include several copies of the form (to fit my 4 guns). Is this accurate? Is there anything else I need to do?
3. Do I need to obtain a HSC within 60 days?
4. Can I own (and load my firearms with) hollow points? I know SF has some sort of law around this, but I couldn't find anything regarding Berkeley.
5. Do I legally have to unload and/or lock my guns up when I'm home? Not home? How about travelling into the state? Again, I know SF has a law regarding this, but I couldn't find anything regarding Berkeley.
6. How hard will it be for me to get ammo (JHPs and FMJs) shipped to me in Berkeley? Is it legal? Do many/most ammo dealers have a problem with it?
7. How hard will it be for me to get transfers done for firearms I buy online?
8. Are there any other Berkeley-specific laws that I may have missed?

Thank you all very much! Please keep the "bend over" jokes to a minimum.

Edit: Ok, ok - I get it.

1. Don't go to Oakland, even for a minute.
2. Bend over, here it comes again

[IVC]

Thank you all very much! Please keep the "bend over" jokes to a minimum.

Why? It seems you already know the drill...

[hks95134]

Berkeley is berserk, but no worse than anywhere else under the thumb of the Sacramento Legislature.

You need to check the "California list" to see what firearms you may bring it. Sell or store out of state anything not on the list.

The AR's require a bullet button, which is a special magazine release which requires you to poke it with the tip of a bullet or other pointed object.

Therefore your AR may need to be modified first. Our resident Librarian will likely chime in with relevant exceptions -- he's good about that.

If you really want to have a carbine rifle without a bullet button, sell your AR and upgrade to a Ruger Mini.

[unusedusername]

Please understand the crime situation in Oakland before you move there.

My advice is worth exactly what you paid for it...

Alright, let's try this again.

Questions:

1. Can I bring my 14 and 30 round magazines (disassembled)? It seems like the answer is no as of January 1st, 2014. Nope, can't import them even as "repair kits" now
2. When I move into the state, I know that I need to complete this form. It appears that I only need to pay $19, even if I include several copies of the form (to fit my 4 guns). Is this accurate? Is there anything else I need to do?You will need to fill out that form, yes
3. Do I need to obtain a HSC within 60 days?A HSC isn't required to own firearms, only to buy new ones. It may be required for the personal importer form but I'm not sure.
4. Can I own (and load my firearms with) hollow points? I know SF has some sort of law around this, but I couldn't find anything regarding Berkeley.HP ammo is good to go. Even in SF, the only HP ammo that is banned is the now obsolete and no longer manufactured "black talon" ammo.
5. Do I legally have to unload and/or lock my guns up when I'm home? Not home? How about travelling into the state? Again, I know SF has a law regarding this, but I couldn't find anything regarding Berkeley.Guns don't need to be locked up while you are at home. Secure storage is a state requirement while you are away though...
6. How hard will it be for me to get ammo (JHPs and FMJs) shipped to me in Berkeley? Is it legal? Do many/most ammo dealers have a problem with it?I'm not sure about shipping ammo to Berkeley, but I'm not aware of any mail order ammo restrictions in the state laws with the exception of a weight limit for (real) black powder
7. How hard will it be for me to get transfers done for firearms I buy online?It's relatively easy, but more of a pain then in other states. Transfer dealers have to comply with a CA DOJ program and some of them just don't want to deal with it.
8. Are there any other Berkeley-specific laws that I may have missed? CA has state preemption of most firearms related laws, so in general you don't need to worry about city-specific ordinances (with some exceptions)

Thank you all very much! Please keep the "bend over" jokes to a minimum.

[majtom94]

Find a new state to live. BOHICA


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[DaveInOroValley]

Between the two Berkeley without hesitation. Having lived near both all my life until 1999 I avoided even driving into Oakland.

If there is no other choice look at Piedmont (Oakland Hills) pricey by 10 times safer then Oakland.

[dunndeal]

Between the two Berkeley without hesitation. Having lived near both all my life until 1999 I avoided even driving into Oakland.

If there is no other choice look at Piedmont (Oakland Hills) pricey by 10 times safer then Oakland.

I believe there are only 3 apartment buildings in Piedmont totaling less than 30units. The average length of tenancy is probably 15 years.
Entry level 2 bedroom house will be about $3k.

[cabinetguy]

Consider Alameda.

[wilderness lover]

Berkeley is better to live in than Oakland or SF. It doesn't have city specific gun restrictions. For example, you can have ammo delivered by mail in Berkeley, not in the other places. Plus Oakland is a ****hole and you are way more likely to be burglarized there (ask me how I know).

[stix213]

Only move to oakland if you enjoy the familiar sound of range time right in front of your own home. Berkeley has its oddities, but at least you don't have to fill any bullet holes in your front door made the night before.

[peabe]

Have any of the people here responding about Oakland, ever lived in Oakland? Or is this all based off what you see on TV?

just curious.

[stix213]

Have any of the people here responding about Oakland, ever lived in Oakland? Or is this all based off what you see on TV?

just curious.

Never "lived" there, but I drive through often. Last time I was there I stopped at a gas station to buy something inside. Had to sit in my car for a while because I was blocked from backing out by a dealer and his customer haggling over price for whatever was in the little baggie he was selling. Must have been a good product because the buyer appeared willing to do "anything" necessary to complete the transaction. So all in all was a fairly typical visit for me that day.

[dunndeal]

Consider Alameda.

^^^ This.
Alameda is an island separated from Oakland by an extension of SF Bay called the Estuary. It is an easily defensible city, the access routes are by a tunnel under the Estuary, 3 drawbridges and one road near the Oakland Airport.
If the SHTF in a big way it would probably be the safest place in the East Bay.

[dunndeal]

Have any of the people here responding about Oakland, ever lived in Oakland? Or is this all based off what you see on TV?

just curious.

Our family moved to Piedmont in 1952, it is the only city in America completely surrounded by another city which in this case is Oakland.

[Joe Register]

Have any of the people here responding about Oakland, ever lived in Oakland? Or is this all based off what you see on TV?

just curious.

I lived in Berkeley and Oakland for years. I managed to go theft free in Berkeley (which isn't exactly Irvine by any stretch) and made good friends in Oakland with the auto parts store to replace all the parts stolen from my car on a regular basis from the craptastic street I lived on or the BART parking lot.

There are nice parts of Oakland but I'm guessing if OP is asking he isn't going to end up there. I would never willingly live in the bad parts of Oakland again. Life is too short.

Choose wisely OP.