Stupid Shooters

[JDay]

Today at Sac Valley some dumbass decided it was a good idea to walk out onto a LIVE rifle range. I was over on the pistol line when I heard a bunch of people start screaming CEASE FIRE! I'm pretty sure he was asked to leave.

[Jimmybacon43]

What's beyond stupid is the aversion most ranges have instilled into California shooters against shooting targets that even have the outline of a body. If you ever have to defend yourself you're not going to be shooting at a circle or a square attacking you. I bet you'd have no problem with them shooting a picture of Osama Bin Laden though now would you? Shooting a picture of someone is a better way to blow off some steam that actually getting violent with that person.

In terms of training I think shooting at silhouettes is absolutely a must, especially with handguns, targets that feature pictures of guys pointing guns at you I think are a pretty good training tool.

The problem is shooting at a picture of an actual person you know, that is very, very weird. At a public range it's an inappropriate way to blow off steam, shooting can be relaxing, almost therapeutic in some ways but for me it's never been a way to release frustration at a specific person by simulating actually killing them.

Picture targets of a specific person in the real world are pretty weird.

[JMP]

I am the stupid shooter at the range.

[fliparch]

I was at Angeles awhile back and there were these two obviously new to AR15 shooting away to my left, very cocky, loud and obnoxious.

I was there to zero my .22 rifle and they saw and heard what I was firing, and I could tell they were snickering and even laughed loud when I got startled at one point.

They had a failure to eject that stove piped. The shooter didn't know what to do, so the owner took charge and started to pry it out with his fingers at first and then walked to the back bench, got his keys and started working on it with his key but still couldn't get spent case out.

So, I politely asked if I could help. I took the AR, dropped the mag, pulled the charging handle back and the brass fell down on its own.

I was hysterically laughing inside. Needless to say, they were quiet after that, shot a few more rounds, packed up and left quietly.

To this day...I get a chuckle thinking about that incident.

[davidb]

the worst stupid shooter encounter i had was at the outdoor shooting/BLM area in elsinore/perris area

not many people were there and only one shooter was to the right of us about 200 feet away, my buddy shouted to the guy at our right who had stopped shooting momentarily that he was going up the hill to set up targets, guy acknowledged and then started shooting again while my friend was still on the hill setting up targets.

[Jimmybacon43]

I am the stupid shooter at the range.

haha best reply so far

[Mitch]

He fired until one of the slides locked back, then decided it would be a good idea to twirl both pistols in his hands.

The dummy still had a round in the chamber of the left gun.

He was lucky he didn't shoot himself or one of the other people out there that day. My dad nearly had a heart attack watching him do that.

That was pretty stupid, but I guess the grip safety on the 1911 would have kept the round from firing if he had depressed the trigger.

The shooter didn't know what to do, so the owner took charge and started to pry it out with his fingers at first and then walked to the back bench, got his keys and started working on it with his key but still couldn't get spent case out.

So, I politely asked if I could help. I took the AR, dropped the mag, pulled the charging handle back and the brass fell down on its own.

I'm surprised the efficient and observant ASR RSOs didn't grab that guy and hurl him off the range.

[Excelsior]

I don't wear hearing protection when I'm out hunting in the field. How many other hunters do? I don't see a reason to wear ears when shooting trap either but I still do, regardless of my opinion on it. I make sure I wear ears in an indoor range because of the noise. But I follow the rules at range regardless just to avoid the hassle. But overall what makes that stupid or dangerous, honestly?

I could end up deaf from multiple causes and shooting will prolly not be the sole contributor to that.

So TKM what makes this such a stupid act in your wise opinion? Pointing your muzzle at someone at the range is incredibly stupid and dangerous and no one disagrees about that.

Shoot your guns without ear protection (no matter where) and you WILL degrade your hearing.

Anyone obtuse enough not to wear ear protection because of "nanny issues" is someone I would rather not be next to on the line. Who knows what other stunts they'll pull?

[N3Hd3LS]

[twotacocombo]

My wife and I went out to a "designated shooting area" out on BLM land in thousand palms canyon. We were shooting at the source of the green arrow in a shallow ravine shooting in a safe direction. After an hour or so, we start to hear shots directly overhead.

Last time we were out at Hodges, near Barstow, we ran into something similar. We set up on a small rise that we usually shoot from. It has a 360 view around us, and we use a 300-400 foot high mountain of rocks as a backstop, about 700 yards away. This time, there was someone at the base of the mountain somewhat in our line of fire, with eazy-up tents and the whole lot. We figured we'd play it safe and move somewhere else. About this time, whoever it was over there started firing full auto directly into the hill. Sounded 30 cal or larger, lots of noise, lots of fun. We wound up moving to a spot on the other side of the huge pile of rocks and dirt, where it was nice and quiet and figured we'd be safe.

After setting up targets and shooting for around 15 minutes, we called a cease fire and walked the range to make some adjustments. That's when I heard the first ricochet. Felt it more than I heard it, so I pulled out the plugs and listened. A few seconds later, we all heard the second one. I started scanning the horizon to see who was shooting our way. Nobody within sight. That's when it all went pear shaped, and the idiots on the other side of the mountain started unloading, full auto, at the rocks at the very top of it. Every single round was ricocheting off the rocks, with several rounds audibly landing around us, and within our party. We had no way to signal them to stop, since it was about a mile drive back around the hill to their camp. We packed up all our stuff and quickly as possible and got the hell out of there, the entire time taking incoming fire.

I guess it was partly our fault for being within their line of fire (on a flat map) but with that much rock between us it shouldn't even have been an issue. Whoever felt it was wise to fire automatic weapons 60-70 degrees up in the air at rocks, when you don't know who/what is on the other side, deserves a good kick in the jimmy.

[omgwtfbbq]

Public Range in Spenceville Wildlife Area, Yuba County.

... Nuff Said

[twotacocombo]

Hodge Road sounds like a frightening mess. I've never been to the southern end, I've read too many stories here on Calguns, but the northern end, where it meets the old Route 66, is almost empty of shooters on any given weekend. Just drive in and find your own personal gulley and set up. Why are there so many people at the southern end?

Because it's closest to the 15, and most of those people just want to find a quick place to shoot something. There's many good backstops for short range on the south end, right off the road. The north end is more suitable for finding a long stretch of empty, flat land to shoot across for those who want to stretch their rifle's legs. Plus, the road isn't in great condition, and I doubt most people want to drive miles of nasty washboard just to put some lead into a hill.