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  • RobG
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    • Dec 2006
    • 4887

    "Lightning link" anyone heard of this?

    Check this link out on THR.

    What the heck is it?
  • #2
    Josh3239
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2006
    • 9197

    I am not a member.

    I think the lightning link was some way to make your semi auto fire fast to simulate automatic fire. I think of a few of those multi burst trigger things have been classified as machine guns by the ATF, California won't let you have one whether they are or aren't considered machine guns by the ATF.

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    • #3
      AJAX22
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      • May 2006
      • 14980

      Real lightning links are registerd NFA devices. they are machineguns under federal law.

      It is a paddle/link which trips the disconect as the bolt moves to the forwardmost position.

      don't f with them, you WILL go to jail
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      • #4
        Blue
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        • Oct 2005
        • 8070

        LL turns your gun into full auto, and isn't legal unless it was registered like a DIAS "back in the day". Apparently you can make them from a hacksaw blade or something.
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          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
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          I've heard that a properly bent paper clip will do the same thing. Of course, I'm not stupid enough to try it. I won't ever try the shoe lace thing either!
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          • #6
            RobG
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            • Dec 2006
            • 4887

            Originally posted by AJAX22
            Real lightning links are registerd NFA devices. they are machineguns under federal law.

            It is a paddle/link which trips the disconect as the bolt moves to the forwardmost position.

            don't f with them, you WILL go to jail
            I already bought it For 7500 I rather spend 3 weeks on Maui!

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            • #7
              leelaw
              Junior Member
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              • Oct 2005
              • 10445

              Yeah, I've heard of them. They're not like multi burst trigger actuators - those are more like bump firing. The lightning link is an NFA device which makes the gun fire in full auto by interrupting the disconnector when the bolt returns to battery.

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                ar15barrels
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                • Jan 2006
                • 57144

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                I've heard that a properly bent paper clip will do the same thing. Of course, I'm not stupid enough to try it. I won't ever try the shoe lace thing either!
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                • #9
                  AJAX22
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                  • May 2006
                  • 14980

                  Here is a link to a pic, (NOT MINE)









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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    Don't forget credit cards and business cards...
                    Yea, like some bank would be dumb enough to give me a credit card.
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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
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                      • Jan 2006
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                      Any idea why there are two disconnectors in there?
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                      • #12
                        leelaw
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10445

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels

                        ny idea why there are two disconnectors in there?
                        Perhaps to allow SAFE-SEMI-AUTO function? The selector has three positions, and the one disconnector looks longer than the other.

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                          sorensen440
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 8612

                          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                          Yea, like some bank would be dumb enough to give me a credit card.
                          My first credit card was almost maxed on my first oll build
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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
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                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57144

                            Originally posted by leelaw
                            Perhaps to allow SAFE-SEMI-AUTO function? The selector has three positions, and the one disconnector looks longer than the other.
                            How familiar are you with a regular M16 fire control group?

                            No offense here, but you can't put two disconnectors in an M16 or AR-15 trigger.

                            The way an M16 works is that the selector draws the disconnector down when in full auto and the auto sear controls the hammer via the carrier.

                            My understanding is that the way a LL is suposed to work is to just drop into a semi-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector and allow for full auto function.

                            In other words, safe/full, not safe/semi/full.

                            The selector being forward in that picture is interesting too.
                            You can't use an M16 selector in a LL application so why have the M16 selector?
                            Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-25-2008, 4:27 PM.
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                            • #15
                              leelaw
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                              • Oct 2005
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                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              How familiar are you with a regular M16 fire control group?

                              No offense here, but you can't put two disconnectors in an M16 or AR-15 trigger.

                              The way an M16 works is that the selector draws the disconnector down when in full auto and the auto sear controls the hammer via the carrier.

                              My understanding is that the way a LL is suposed to work is to just drop into a semi-auto hammer/trigger/disconnector and allow for full auto function.

                              In other words, safe/full, not safe/semi/full.

                              The selector being forward in that picture is interesting too.
                              You can't use an M16 selector in a LL application so why have the M16 selector?
                              The point is that it looks custom, not just an AR15 that someone threw a lightning link into for instant FA goodness.

                              I was simply pointing out that the disconnectors are of different lengths, appear to work independently from each other, and the selector appears to operate in three positions.

                              If trying to answer your questions comes with a rebuttal of being talked down to, then perhaps you shouldn't ask them anymore.

                              ETA: it looks like the second disconnector has a forward catch on it - 3rd burst, possibly? Maybe it's set for SAFE-BURST-FA
                              Last edited by leelaw; 07-25-2008, 4:41 PM.

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