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  • #16
    40calibre
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 463

    my 870 tactical has jammed by failing to extract about 5 times out of 200 with birdshot. It is quite a known problem for the 870 express line

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    • #17
      SoCalEnthusiast
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 1734

      Benelli is for the rich and famous. I'm not either, yet...

      Thanks guys, I think I might get one.

      And to the guy who's upset I'm asking about stuff and I should do my own research? Isn't that what message boards are for? Come on bud!

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      • #18
        Jongage
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2011
        • 370

        Yes
        Propane

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        • #19
          JDay
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 19393

          The Mossberg 500 has a better design.

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          • #20
            SoCalEnthusiast
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 1734

            There's one called the "persuader" and the "intimidator". LOL I mean come on! Hilarious!

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            • #21
              Gutz
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jan 2013
              • 4127

              yes
              1A - 2A= -1A :(

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              • #22
                russ69
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2009
                • 9348

                An 870 is as reliable as they come, I have 1000s of rounds through mine. I'm not aware of current issues but the basic design is very robust.
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                • #23
                  Jel
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1420

                  OP, while it is a decent shotgun, it has its differences from what the police and military are issued.

                  From Remington's Military Division on the differences:

                  The 870 Express has been an important part of Remington’s offering to the sporting market. It was designed to meet a price point in the commercial market while still providing classic 870 functionality. All of Remington’s 870’s have interchangeable parts, even if they have cosmetic differences. It is also important to note that many manufacturers use the 870 Express platform
                  for their Police / Combat models. Without exception, every manufacturer who utilizes our 870 platform serves to upgrade their system to a more efficient, street worthy platform.

                  While the 870 Express is still an 870, the best pump shotgun on the market, there are some very important cosmetic and functional differences between it and the 870 Police. To our customers in Law Enforcement, Military, Corrections, and Security, whose lives depend upon the unfailing performance of Remington shotguns, the Police modifications are of paramount importance.

                  Synopses of the variances are provided below.

                  • 870 Police shotguns go thru a special 23 station check list – ranging from visual inspection, functional testing, test firing, and final inspection.
                  • All Police shotguns are assembled in a “special build area” at the plant in Ilion, NY. This section is secured and serves only to build LE and Military shotguns, with the same factory personnel working at that assignment each shift.
                  • All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure top quality and functionality.
                  • Due to heavy recoil in buck and slug loads, all 870 Police guns have a longer
                  magazine spring which ensures positive feed and function.
                  • A heavier sear spring is used to generate a reliable, positive trigger pull between 5 and 8 lbs.
                  • A heavier carrier dog spring is used to ensure when the carrier elevates the shell, it will be held there until the bolt can push it into the chamber. This ensures positive feeding when using heavier payload rounds.
                  • Police shotguns do not have an ISS (Integrated Safety System) which is a locking mechanism on the safety of commercial shotguns. This type of locking mechanism can cause delay to an officer who needs the weapon but does not have the appropriate key. LE shotguns have the standard, proven, cross bolt safety.
                  • The fore-end on the Express model is longer and not compatible with many police shotgun vehicle racks.
                  • The Police shotguns utilize the heavy duty SPEEDFEED Stocks and Fore-ends.
                  • The Express model will not allow for the addition of an extension tube without physical modification to the tube and barrel, which can nullify the warranty.
                  • The Express model has a BEAD BLAST BLUE finish while the Police models utilize either High Luster bluing or Parkerization.
                  • The Express model utilizes a synthetic trigger housing while the Police models use a compressed metal housing.
                  • The Police shotgun barrel is locked down with a “ball detent” system in conjunction with the magazine cap vs. a lesser grade “synthetic magazine spring retainer” lock down as used on the Express system.
                  • The receivers used in Police guns are “vibra honed” to smooth out rough finishes and remove burrs before parkerization or bluing.
                  • Police shotguns use machined ejectors and extractors, as opposed to powdered metal cast which are utilized on the Express models.

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                  • #24
                    gimlet421
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 271

                    I have heard that the quality of the Express Tactical has declined since the Freedom Group took over Remington. I would go with a Mossberg 590A1 instead.

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                    • #25
                      SNCaliber
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 3222

                      yes its a great entry level shotgun with lots of aftermarket support
                      -Sang

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                      • #26
                        bigbearbear
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 5378

                        Before you buy one, I'll recommend you talk with the owner ot AI&P tactical and also check out his web site with instructions on how to make it reliable:


                        He'll be able to tell you exactly what various police departments use in their police cruisers.

                        You'll also have to think about what you wish to do with your shotgun. Is it for clay shooting? Hunting? Home defense? A little bit of both?

                        Also, Benelli shotguns are not for the rich and famous. I have 2, a Benelli SuperSport and also a Benelli M2 Field Compact. Women don't rip their clothes off and ask me for my autograph on their bra and my bank account won't impress anyone.

                        Check out Benelli SuperNova.

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                        • #27
                          ad40
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 689

                          Originally posted by Jel
                          OP, while it is a decent shotgun, it has its differences from what the police and military are issued.

                          ^This. If I was you, I would save up a little more and go with the 870P.

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                          • #28
                            russ69
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 9348

                            Originally posted by Jel
                            • All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure top quality and functionality....
                            I like this line. I guess for the other guns they just close their eyes, grab a part and hope for the best?
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                            • #29
                              joker70
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 1208

                              I haven't seen the Turner's 870 Express Tactical in person, but the one pictured in the ad doesn't seem to have the Ghost ring sighs and top rail?
                              "The only right more important than gun rights to cgn members is the right to be a drama queen..." jimx

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                              • #30
                                Go Packers!
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 578

                                NO! I had jamming issues with an 870 express. If you want your $400 item to work out of the box, don't get one. They feel solid, but I would not trust my life with it.

                                I would recommend a Benelli Nova or Supernova. Depending on the variation, they are not much more expensive.

                                If you want aftermarket options, consider Mossberg.
                                Last edited by Go Packers!; 01-17-2014, 5:35 PM.
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