Who qualifies as an LEO

[mrjones98]

Assuming this is asked in reference to the various gun laws that make exceptions for law enforcement...

Their qualification as "LEO/peace officer/830PC" has nothing to do with their fire training. They are police officers who have gone through the academy and been sworn in. They also happen to have gone through a fire academy, and are also employed as firefighters.

Sunnyvale Public Safety Officers who serve and/or are trained as both Fire and Police, I believe, qualify.

http://www.sunnyvale.ca.gov/Departments/Public+Safety/

[Suvorov]

How do these Kalifornia "LEO Special exemptions" apply to "gun carrying" Federal Officers?

CBP?
FAM?
FFDO?
BP?

[Rogue187]

What are you asking?
CBP
FAM
FFDO
BP?

Are you trying to find out if these agencies individuals qualify as LEO's..
Under California Penal Code 830.8 Federal officers are not Peace Officers.

But what is your question?
Can these individuals purchase weapons that are LEO only?

[jmzhwells]

the Fire guys that investigate arson and have gone through the POST training are considered LEO's. They know who they are, and usually only investigate arson. This way they can file charges with the local DA.

[jmzhwells]

and yes if they are POST certified as Peace officers then they can have the LEO only guns. Hoooraw

[ibanezfoo]

My brother-in-law has peace officer status and supposedly can arrest you, but he's not a cop. He works with kids "in the system". His degree is in psychology.

-Bryan

[Santa Cruz Armory]

Even though I guess I could make an arrest, I just call an LEO (County S.O.) to make any arrest. I do ivestigate fires, etc. I'm sure "The" Fire Chief would write me a letter though if I needed it to obtain any of the restricted items.


I'm interested in this topic though as it may be a avenue that I hadn't thought of prior.

[Stormfeather]

Sounds like you may be onto something here! Next thing ya know, 75% of Calgunners are going to be applying to the firemans academy and gunning for the Chief slot!

[GuyW]

Does any of this have to do with being sworn? For example, the above cited occupations of fire chief, arson inspector, etc..are they sworn?

I'm curious about the exact text of the "swearing in".

[jmzhwells]

taking an oath, means swearing in. Upon academy graduation you take an oath to uphold laws, etc. So if the fire investigators pass a POST academy then they will be sworn in by taking an oath

[GuyW]

taking an oath, means swearing in. Upon academy graduation you take an oath to uphold laws, etc. So if the fire investigators pass a POST academy then they will be sworn in by taking an oath

So, is the oath any different than that taken by elected officials and various government volunteers?

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 20 MISCELLANEOUS SUBJECTS


SEC. 3. Members of the Legislature, and all public officers and
employees, executive, legislative, and judicial, except such inferior
officers and employees as may be by law exempted, shall, before they
enter upon the duties of their respective offices, take and
subscribe the following oath or affirmation:


"I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Consti-
tution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign
and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the
Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the
State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without
any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will
well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about
to enter.
"And I do further swear (or affirm) that I do not advocate,
nor am I a member of any party or organization, political or other-
wise, that now advocates the overthrow of the Government of the
United States or of the State of California by force or violence
or other unlawful means; that within the five years immediately
preceding the taking of this oath (or affirmation) I have not
been a member of any party or organization, political or other-
wise, that advocated the overthrow of the Government of the
United States or of the State of California by force or violence
or other unlawful means except as follows:
__________________________________________________ _____

(If no affiliations, write in the words "No Exceptions")
and that during such time as I hold the office of ______________

________________________________ I will not advocate nor
(name of office)
become a member of any party or organization, political or
otherwise, that advocates the overthrow of the Government of the
United States or of the State of California by force or violence or
other unlawful means."

And no other oath, declaration, or test, shall be required as a
qualification for any public office or employment.
"Public officer and employee" includes every officer and employee
of the State, including the University of California, every county,
city, city and county, district, and authority, including any
department, division, bureau, board, commission, agency, or
instrumentality of any of the foregoing.

[Santa Cruz Armory]

I was sworn in...

[GuyW]

I was sworn in...

I've been sworn in several times....but I don't get to arrest anyone (other than citizens arrest)

[SkyStorm82]

I get sworn at....

[jamesob]

some fireman do have power.