Pre (2000) ban assault rifles.

[Alpha-Leader]

If a CA registered pre-ban assault rifle is converted to be CA compliant, can it then be transferred to someone else? Or did the registration permanently put that gun onto a blacklist that prevents all legal transfers and the original owner is stuck with it?

[CSACANNONEER]

Is said gun a CAT. 1 AW? (listed by make and model) or just an AW by features? If it is the latter, it can be deregistered and treated like any other non AW.

[Ronin2]

If a CA registered pre-ban assault rifle is converted to be CA compliant, can it then be transferred to someone else? Or did the registration permanently put that gun onto a blacklist that prevents all legal transfers and the original owner is stuck with it?

I believe it is permanently with the gun. Yu have to destroy it or sell it to an FFL for out of state sale if you want to get rid of it. Why would you?

[Alpha-Leader]

Parent's own the guns, they are getting older...

Trying to figure out what will happen with them, as far as I understand they did not leave any form of grandfathering of them in the law.


My brother did move to Kentucky though...would it be possible for him to take possession?


Also, what if I had an FFL? I have potential access to a storefront/business license/handling transfers/etc and had in general been considering the idea.

[Scuba951]

Is said gun a CAT. 1 AW? (listed by make and model) or just an AW by features? If it is the latter, it can be deregistered and treated like any other non AW.

This^

I believe it is permanently with the gun. Yu have to destroy it or sell it to an FFL for out of state sale if you want to get rid of it. Why would you?

False. Read the above quoted post.

Parent's own the guns, they are getting older...

Trying to figure out what will happen with them, as far as I understand they did not leave any form of grandfathering of them in the law.


My brother did move to Kentucky though...would it be possible for him to take possession?


Also, what if I had an FFL? I have access to a storefront/business license/handling transfers/etc

Read CSA's post. He is correct.
What make/ model is the rifle?
If it is listed by name on the following ban chart then no, it can not be transferred even if evil features are taken off.
You'd have to swap the lower to an OLL you can pick up at any LGS. Your parents would need to get rid of the lower/ sell the old lower out of state.

Sure, your brother in Kentucky can take it, but that's what the gun grabbers want. Don't give them what they want. Do what it takes to keep the gun in state.

Read the chart. http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

[HighLander51]

If a CA registered pre-ban assault rifle is converted to be CA compliant, can it then be transferred to someone else? Or did the registration permanently put that gun onto a blacklist that prevents all legal transfers and the original owner is stuck with it?

Stuck with the serial number that was registered with the DOJ before Jan 1 2000. You have a couple of options, sell it to a FFL that can take registered AOWs in CA, sell it out of state, or donate it to your local Sheriff. If you choose to donate it, you only need to give up the bare lower receiver, nothing else.

[Alpha-Leader]

They are all listed by name in the flowchart.

Essentially, if something were to happen to my parents, I would be s.o.l. then?

[Ronin2]

False. Read the above quoted post.

FAIL! All my AW's are "named" in Roberti-Roos so from my perspective and as we have subsequently found out, the OP's perspective, I was correct.

Cheers.

[Scuba951]

FAIL! All my AW's are "named" in Roberti-Roos so from my perspective and as we have subsequently found out, the OP's perspective, I was correct.

Cheers.

You failed first by not giving the OP the FULL answer by not taking into acount the fact that the gun might not be named.

[CSACANNONEER]

FAIL! All my AW's are "named" in Roberti-Roos so from my perspective and as we have subsequently found out, the OP's perspective, I was correct.

Cheers.

Face it, your post was wrong. It was only luck that your answer was correct but, that does not mean that you were right. It only proves that there is such a thing as "DUMB LUCK". The fact is that CA's AW registration does leave many registered guns a way to deregister them.

[Alpha-Leader]

What if my father is a hoarder and I cannot find the receivers?

[CSACANNONEER]

Also, the ONLY legal way to get them to your brother is to send them through a CA FFL with a CA AW permit to a FFL in his state of residence.

[CSACANNONEER]

What if my father is a hoarder and I cannot find the receivers?

Then, so many days after he dies, you or whoever finds them will be committing a felony.

[Alpha-Leader]

Also, the ONLY legal way to get them to your brother is to send them through a CA FFL with a CA AW permit to a FFL in his state of residence.

If we go to a gun store that sells assault weapons would that count, or would it have to be a special/rare one?

[CSACANNONEER]

If we go to a gun store that sells assault weapons would that count, or would it have to be a special/rare one?

No gun store sells AWs to the public. So, most FFLs do not have AW permits. Yea, it is a special and expensive permit to get and keep. So, figure it'll be an expensive transfer.