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  • #31
    Chefantone
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 650

    Originally posted by Lugiahua
    Honestly, I think your argument is very similar to "police should shoot guns out of her hand"...
    Negativity is hard to counteract. Stupidity is even harder. - Tim Schmidt

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    • #32
      Mr. Beretta
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2005
      • 6613

      highbrass

      You're the officer by the open car door.

      The lady holding the gun walks towards you moving the gun in your direction.

      You're in charge.

      Please explain in detail how to resolve the issue.

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      • #33
        TheExiled
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 2933

        Originally posted by highbrass
        Inexcusable attempted murder.

        From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

        It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

        Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.
        Scenario 1: beanbag her - unlikely to drop her or incapacitate her to a point that she can't use the gun. Likely to enrage her more to where she would use it.

        Scenario 2: OC spray - expose an officer without cover to get within range to be effective, assume it will work and she won't just start blasting blindly out of anger

        Scenario 3: X26 / taser - again, expose an officer to get within range, assume it will make good contact through her loose and possibly multi-layered clothing, and assume she won't tighten her muscles and squeeze off rounds

        Flashbang/tear gas? Im not even going to respond to that.

        Im sure the Police would be happy to let you stand up there in front of them and attempt any of these or your own ideas of 'less lethal' given the situation

        Good shoot
        Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends

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        • #34
          biglou
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1314

          Originally posted by highbrass
          Have this thread to yourselves. It's utterly disappointing comments like the ones found in this thread that have caused me to give up on gun owners, gun rights and gun elections.
          Then why are you here ? This is a GUN forum.

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          • #35
            wurger
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 1433

            Originally posted by highbrass
            Inexcusable attempted murder.

            From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

            It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

            Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.
            Can't accurately judge that from the viewpoint of the camera shooting that video. A long lens, shot from a distance, will foreshorten the view, making objects appear closer than they are.

            Not defending, just saying...

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            • #36
              NoSpam
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 711

              Originally posted by Ritchie8719
              Pajamas? Really?
              People wearing PJ's out in public like that seem to be a dead giveaway for mental issues (no pun intended). I've seen more than one of them with bracelets on both wrists. One for the hospital and one for county lockup.

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              • #37
                CodyGT46
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1846

                wow
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                • #38
                  POLICESTATE
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 18185

                  Originally posted by VictorFranko
                  Kind of weird, I know they talked to her for an hour before she was shot, but as she approached the officers with the gun in hand, I never heard any commands to stop, drop the weapon, nothing.
                  All those rounds and she is still alive..........
                  9mm Glocks probably. Flame at me bros!

                  I'm assuming they said everything they felt they needed to say, she was extremely close and as soon as she had to gun angle much closer to their direction and moved behind the cover of that door, well...

                  I'm surprised they waited that long.
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                  • #39
                    TRICKSTER
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 12438

                    Originally posted by highbrass
                    Police is supposed to be a job that assumes high level of risk for the safety of each and every citizen, even disturbed ones.

                    Trying to "talk her down" was not at all an honest or reasonable attempt to resolve the situation. Using an obviously ineffective means is a common and highly transparent method of getting to use excessive force. People higer the ladder aren't fooled by this tactic.

                    Have this thread to yourselves. It's utterly disappointing comments like the ones found in this thread that have caused me to give up on gun owners, gun rights and gun elections.


                    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                    • #40
                      Gio
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10251

                      Sucks for her.
                      ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                      • #41
                        ChrisC
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2469

                        Originally posted by Mr. Beretta
                        highbrass

                        You're the officer by the open car door.

                        The lady holding the gun walks towards you moving the gun in your direction.

                        You're in charge.

                        Please explain in detail how to resolve the issue.
                        He would shoot the gun out of her hands, duhhh.

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                        • #42
                          Cody
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2148

                          I counted like 16 shots and she just kind of fell over. I think one 12ga bean bag round would have put her down sooner.

                          -Cody

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                          • #43
                            glbtrottr
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 3551

                            Originally posted by Cody
                            I counted like 16 shots and she just kind of fell over. I think one 12ga bean bag round would have put her down sooner.

                            -Cody
                            Kinda my point.
                            On hold....

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                            • #44
                              m16
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2527

                              Originally posted by glbtrottr
                              Kinda my point.
                              Dude, where have you been?

                              I've called and texted you a few times.
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                              • #45
                                Maddog5150
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 10526

                                Originally posted by highbrass
                                Inexcusable attempted murder.

                                From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

                                It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

                                Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.
                                Originally posted by highbrass
                                This video should scare the living heck out of anyone who wants freedom. Truly scary is that the cops can execute citizens, and the GUN OWNERS are their greatest defenders.

                                I have seen more courage, patience and understanding from Syrian rebels than what these cops displayed. Perhaps it's a tie.

                                Can't you understand what this video means about this country's present state and any hope for freedom?

                                On laughing at you guys who don't understand this.

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