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  • -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Woman with a Fake Handgun gets Shot by Long Beach Police (Graphic)

    Link here, and it is graphic...as well as a good shoot, imo...

    Last edited by -hanko; 11-18-2013, 11:33 AM.
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  • #2
    joe_gman
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1225

    Attempted suicide by cop?
    Religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together. James Madison

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    • #3
      kaligaran
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 4800

      Originally posted by joe_gman
      Attempted suicide by cop?
      That's the only thing I can think of.
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      • #4
        VictorFranko
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2010
        • 13737

        Kind of weird, I know they talked to her for an hour before she was shot, but as she approached the officers with the gun in hand, I never heard any commands to stop, drop the weapon, nothing.
        All those rounds and she is still alive..........

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        • #5
          jglabe
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 415

          Originally posted by VictorFranko
          All those rounds and she is still alive..........
          Visions of a blue Toyota Tacoma come to mind..... I wonder how many rounds actually hit her. Must have been a dozens rounds fired.

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          • #6
            omgwtfbbq
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 3445

            It's a good shoot. Tragic, but still a good shoot.


            In before the obligatory posting of Police in APCs.
            "Far and away the best prize life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." - Theodore Roosevelt

            Originally posted by rmorris7556
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            • #7
              highbrass
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 69

              Originally posted by -hanko
              Link here, and it is graphic...as well as a good shoot, imo...

              http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad1_1384786686
              Inexcusable attempted murder.

              From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

              It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

              Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.

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              • #8
                NiteQwill
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                • Dec 2007
                • 6368

                Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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                • #9
                  DTOM CA!
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1060

                  No less than lethal ? Taser, bean bag, pepper spray, sniper shoot the gun out of her hand something ? I'm sure Obama care will pay for all her medical bills.

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                  • #10
                    Ritchie8719
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1433

                    Pajamas? Really?
                    Tarn Helm, WTF???

                    My god, Bigger Hammer, dont you have jaywalkers to ticket?

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                    • #11
                      bigdawg86
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 3554

                      Originally posted by highbrass
                      Inexcusable attempted murder.
                      That's a bit harsh don't ya think? I think there is ALWAYS a better way to handle a situation when you look back on it... as they say hind sight is 20/20, but let's change it around a bit.

                      You you confront someone in your home, both of you are armed, and he is not acting aggressive, but keeps creeping towards you gun in hand. What would you do?

                      I know you will say that it's not the same, but seriously? What would you do? I know I would personally drop the hammer.

                      EDIT: What scares me is that police don't seem to have the ability to decipher good gun owner from bad, which will matter in a situation like hurricane Katrine, LA riots, etc
                      Last edited by bigdawg86; 11-18-2013, 11:51 AM.

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                      • #12
                        highbrass
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 69

                        This video should scare the living heck out of anyone who wants freedom. Truly scary is that the cops can execute citizens, and the GUN OWNERS are their greatest defenders.

                        I have seen more courage, patience and understanding from Syrian rebels than what these cops displayed. Perhaps it's a tie.

                        Can't you understand what this video means about this country's present state and any hope for freedom?

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                        • #13
                          omgwtfbbq
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3445

                          Originally posted by highbrass
                          From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.
                          When a gun is involved, it's more common for officers to use a lethal force option because other less-lethal options don't always work. Tasers don't work 100% of the time, neither do flash bangs or tear gas. In fact tear gas is just about the worst possible thing you could use because you essentially blind the suspect and the officers. If the suspect has a gun, now they are likely to start shooting blind, as would the officers.

                          Also I'm going to assume you didn't mean the "frangible round" as they are still lethal. Frangible rounds are made of ceramic and are meant for use in close quarters and to reduce the risk of overpenetrating a target. It will pass though flesh, and it will kill someone. Not sure why you would think this is a more viable option, but then again, I don't have your wealth or knowledge and experience in this area.
                          Last edited by omgwtfbbq; 11-18-2013, 12:05 PM.
                          "Far and away the best prize life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." - Theodore Roosevelt

                          Originally posted by rmorris7556
                          They teach you secret stuff I can't mention on line.

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                          • #14
                            BigStiCK
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3726

                            Originally posted by highbrass
                            Inexcusable attempted murder.

                            From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

                            It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

                            Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.
                            Four 's for you.

                            Begone!
                            Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.

                            ~Pope John Paul II

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                            • #15
                              Shorthair
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1344

                              Originally posted by highbrass
                              Inexcusable attempted murder.

                              From the distance of the camera, let alone the distance to the police, she could have been flash-banged, tear-gassed, tasered, shot with a frangible round, etc.

                              It is absolutely unconscionable that we tolerate police who shoot citizens.

                              Regaining Freedom is a long way off in America.
                              This was well handled by police in my opinion. If she were my mental case sister I might feel differently but emotion doesn't change reallity. I don't expect LE to further risk life and limb after every reasonable affort was made to talk her down. She was free to drop the gun at anytime during the exchange. She was obviously disturbed or suicidal but that doean't change the fact that LE needed to handle this situation in a manner that prevented loss of life to themeslves or the public. We can always second guess them. If she had a knife I would agree with you. The cops saw a gun and acted appropriately. I would have actually expected the cop to fire sooner, given the angle and dirrection she was pointing what was believed to be a firearm. Don't get me wrong, I don't think LE should have carte blanche to shoot the citizenry, but in this case no further action was required, in my opinion.
                              Last edited by Shorthair; 11-18-2013, 12:06 PM.
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