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  • PhillyGunner
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 742

    Man with Gun Arrested @ LAX

    Airport police Sgt. Karla Ortiz said the man either took out the gun or a gun carrying case around 9 p.m. Friday. At least one witness who saw the act notified authorities and the bomb squad was called in to search his bag.

    Can't tell from the article if the guy was a dumb*** or if he was yet another victim of some "well meaning" moron.



    He apparently had checked the firearm, properly, and it was still unloaded when what ever happened, happened.

    My guess... he popped the locks on the case to make sure it was still in the case as it had been when he checked it and somebody looked over his shoulder and panicked.
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    After you fill out the unloaded firearm declaration you are supposed to put it inside firearms case. Duh. Hard to do that without opening case.

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    • #3
      Fill
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 331

      ^^^that's not accurate. The orange card just needs to be placed near by the locked case

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      • #4
        Lone_Gunman
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2009
        • 8396

        Originally posted by Fill
        ^^^that's not accurate. The orange card just needs to be placed near by the locked case
        And if its a long gun, in its own case how exactly are you going to place it "near" the case.


        So the article says the guy either took out the gun or a gun case so conceivably somebody freaked out simply at the sight of the gun case. Either that or maybe it was in a nice sturdy case like a pelican case and he popped it open to put the orange card inside.

        Either way it sounds to me like this guy is getting screwed because somebody panicked at the sight of an evil gun.

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        • #5
          kbenson
          Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 492

          Originally posted by ScottB
          Read the story. He was ARRIVING and was charged with brandishing - that means the gun, not a case



          The idiot took his gun out of the bag and out of the case while still in the terminal.

          Correct procedure is pick up your bags and exit the terminal. If he wanted to be sure his gun was still in the case, he should have gone to Security and checked it with them (because if wasn't, that would be the next stop anyway). Behavior needs to be appropriate to location. Why do so many people here fail to understand that?
          ^^^^^
          This

          But I do wonder if the security office would allow one to open a gun case in it's location? I assume they would also be paranoid and tell u to take a hike.

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          • #6
            PhillyGunner
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 742

            Originally posted by kbenson
            ^^^^^
            This

            But I do wonder if the security office would allow one to open a gun case in it's location? I assume they would also be paranoid and tell u to take a hike.
            Well, if they are going to arrest you for checking the contents of your checked luggage, while it is in the secure area where they are still responsible for it... then they better start letting people check in the security office!

            "Hi Mr. Delta Luggage Clerk... I just arrived with my very nice, expensive irreplaceable firearm in my checked luggage, and not wanting to frighten anyone here in the baggage area with even a quick glance at it, I went to the parking area and opened the case in my truck. The locks were still in place, but the firearm was missing."

            "Let me see your luggage tag... and you left the baggage claim area?" "Once you step past that little gap in the wall that we don't even check luggage tags anymore... well, we are no longer responsible for your luggage. Have a nice day sir!"

            I'm not prepared to label the offender an "idiot" until someone confirms that he actually opened the case and removed the firearm. The quote from the Police is a little ambiguous as to whether he even opened the case or not. I'm not sure how the law reads... but logic tells me I'm not brandishing anything I haven't wrapped my grubby little hands around.

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            • #7
              Librarian
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              • Oct 2005
              • 44678

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              • #8
                Josey Wales
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2010
                • 8869

                I heard, on the radio, he was released with no charges filed.

                LOS ANGELES – A San Jose man who was spotted with a gun at LAX was freed today, when Los Angeles police declined to book him because his acts “did not meet element of the crime,” an LAX police sergeant said.The…
                Last edited by Josey Wales; 11-09-2013, 2:21 PM. Reason: Found DB article
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                • #9
                  67goat
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 896

                  Dictionary definitions have very little to do with laws.

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                  • #10
                    baggss
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 3439

                    Sounds to me like he picked up his gun case and wanted to make sure the gun was still in the case. Really not a smart thing to do.

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                    • #11
                      TeddyBallgame
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 5732

                      Originally posted by baggss
                      Sounds to me like he picked up his gun case and wanted to make sure the gun was still in the case. Really not a smart thing to do.
                      I agree, yet, is it a reason to really over-react, once again...yeah, let's get the bomb squad rolling because a guy decided to check if his firearm was still where it should be...

                      maybe if there weren't so many "in house" thefts of peoples belongings, one wouldn't feel the need to check...I think you should be able to check, we're talking about a firearm here, not a T-Shirt...having to leave the terminal, then check only makes it harder to prove you didn't have it when you left

                      there should be an appropriate guideline in place, so that you may check that your firearm is still in it's case, the custody of the gun has been compromised, no telling what could be in that case

                      I know if I ever traveled, and had to check a firearm, I'm going to want to be 100% positive I have that firearm BEFORE I leave that terminal...I won't fault the guy for wanting to check, just the avenue he may have taken to do it

                      I've never traveled with a checked firearm, so I admit I don't know the proper procedure, but, is there is proper method to check BEFORE leaving the airport without a Level 1 breach being enacted?
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                      • #12
                        baggss
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3439

                        Originally posted by TeddyBallgame
                        I agree, yet, is it a reason to really over-react, once again...yeah, let's get the bomb squad rolling because a guy decided to check if his firearm was still where it should be...
                        Hell no.

                        When I got to VA on my current trip I waited until I got into my rental car to check my pistol case. When I return to LAX next weekend I'm just going to assume until I'm in my rental car there.

                        Not worth all the attention and silliness this guy encountered...

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                        • #13
                          Edwood
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 777

                          Yeah, sure. Guns are never stolen from checked luggage.

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                          • #14
                            Oliver_Charles
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1196

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19787

                              Originally posted by baggss
                              Hell no.

                              When I got to VA on my current trip I waited until I got into my rental car to check my pistol case. When I return to LAX next weekend I'm just going to assume until I'm in my rental car there.

                              Not worth all the attention and silliness this guy encountered...
                              Pretty funny coming from a guy that was carrying around a gun on his hip, and then writing a thread about it. Attention seeking much?

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