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[Falstaff]

Bullsheet meter is pegged!

[caferacer]

Hey there Calgunners,

I'm selling a Zeiss Conquest 6.5-20x50mm scope. It was mounted on my Remington 700 but hasn't actually been used yet. Was planning on having fun with it but now I need the money.

The scope has the mildot reticle and will come with Butler Creek flip open covers.

Retails for $800, asking EDIT: $700 OBO for these.

OP should've never purchased the Remington to begin with when a vacuum cleaner was clearly the smarter buy.

[SoldierLife7]

This is getting interesting...

Agreed!

[luckystrike]

its ok everyone, its travis590

[ReadyVallejo]

Actually, Gunbroker.com could have been a problem as far as their support. They seem to have poor customer service and help sellers more than buyers in my experience. Moreover, their prices are actually pretty high, not very good buys on the 4-5 transactions I've had there. Sometimes you pay top dollar. So far I like GunAuction.com a lot better, even the sellers there.

I've got an ongoing dispute that's now more than 90-days old with Gunbroker.com, and they let the seller change feedback unfairly after 90 days, but they won' t let me do it!

Not only did the seller charge more for shipping than he advertised in the listing, but he had outrageously poor customer service (which is really what made me complain in the first place) and quickly retaliated with false, negative feedback when I filed a complaint about it with his BBB (who did nothing, but it helped me get a charge back later). Moreover, after all this when I opened and actually examined the item about a week after delivery as my new P95 was "in jail" when the Gunbroker.com order arrived, the item had arrived rusty, a supposedly brand-new magazine! The seller even said not to E-mail him anymore after 2 E-mails, claiming, among other things, I sent him "50" in response to my feedback after he posted his negative one in retaliation about my complaint with the BBB. This E-mail from him not to communicate further with him, along with the BBB complaint that they closed rather abruptly, was one reason my credit-card company authorized the charge back, something that's hard to get BTW. Moreover, I bought many of the same magazines from Ruger for a lot lower price (about 35% less OTD), especially with my $20 discounts I got for purchasing Ruger firearms and later registering them at their Website. The auction I won with this currently unnamed vendor from Florida totaled about $44 including the shipping method I didn't want, and though their listing said they'd mail it any way you chose, they mailed it the way they wanted, Priority Mail insured when, as I said, the item was not even yet needed because the gun was in its 10-day waiting period at the FFL.

I'm now hoping to still have the false, negative feedback removed, and if and when Gunbroker.com does, I'll try to find the label he says he sent me (after telling me not to communicate with him) to mail the rusty item back, which I'll also have to spend my time trying to find, etc., if it's here . Jeesh, criminal accusations have even flown back and forth now! However, I'm probably the only one who contacted federal authorities about the mail fraud. Moreover, all I wanted from the BBB complaint was like $1 to $3 back from my shipping charges. Though as I said, after examining the item later, it turned out to be rusty anyway so that I'd rather have a new one and pay less for it anyway!

[ScottsBad]

I'll tell you a true story about shippers and theft. I used to believe that the shippers UPS and FEDX were managed by managers who hired good people. The drivers handle so much merchandise that I assumed they would be vetted and watched closely. NOOOO.

I was doing a 6 month contact for Siemans (jerk outfit, poorly run, GLOBAL company) in Fremont. My laptop failed (hardware problem), the company had no onsite support and after asking around who I should send this to to be repaired. I was told to talk to the receptionist and she will send it out for repair (what? the receptionist). So I went out to the reception station and she didn't seem to know what to do.

Just as I was talking to her I noticed the FedX driver was standing behind us. And he breaks in and says, "Yeah you are supposed to give it to us, I know were to send it."

I initially laughed, and said, "You take these without a box and send them out for repair?" I looked at the receptionist and said, "Is this what we are supposed to do?" She said, "Yeah that's what we're supposed to do."

Having worked for this company and seeing how poorly they ran their operations and being in a hurry to get it fixed I handed it over. I asked for a receipt, he said he said he would get one back to me as soon as it was shipped. The receptionist agreed. And it went out the door.

I inquired about it the next day, as the "receptionist" was supposed to handle it. "No, haven't heard anything". I became concerned after 2 days because there was no word and the disk contained all kinds of company and client data. BY the way they had no back up strategy either.

On a six month contract to finish a project that was estimated to take 18 months. I had no time to find out what happened. I just let sent emails to management telling them what happened and what my concerns were. The email was, I guess, ignored. I borrowed a computer from another dept. and managed to recover a few of my files from people who I distributed them to. I finished their project on time, and they wanted me to stay on. The day that the initial testing was completed successfully I left.

I asked for my final check. They asked me for the lost computer, I took them to the receptionist and said talk to her, and I walked out the door.

So you cannot necessarily trust these guys.

[Some Guy]

Actually, Gunbroker.com could have been a problem as far as their support. They seem to have poor customer service and help sellers more than buyers in my experience. I've got an ongoing dispute that's now more than 90-days old with them, and they let the seller change feedback unfairly after 90 days, but they won' t let me do it!

This

[guitar-nut]

After the charge back the merchandise is once again the property of the seller. The items should have been returned to the seller. Your CC simply removes money from the vendors account. Your CC does not pay for the items.

I think the vendor asked UPS to recover the items. When UPS comes to pick up the items, your brother is confused as to what has happened and what needs to be returned. So in this confusion he hands over the rifle after the threat of lawsuit. The description of the items may have been rifle parts for an R700.

Your rifle is either at UPS or on the way to the vendor. I'm sure the vendor wanted the stock and scope back in order to substantiate the legitimacy of the charge back. They don't know if there is real damage or if your are claiming damage in order to get the items for free.

Put yourself in their position. Say you sold something online to someone and shipped it to them. Then they contact you and want a refund because of damaged goods. Would you blindly refund the money without any evidence of damage?

This sounds like the most probable explanation, your brother is an idiot and handed your whole rifle over.

Or your brother stole your rifle.

Edit: For sale posts, sold the stock... this is sounding pretty sketchy...

[Off the Roster]

ask your brother if this guy looks familiar.

[imtheomegaman]

smell test
() Pass
(X) Fail

[ScottsBad]

First, if that happened to me I'd have my friend come and take my firearms to his house just in case the police come and want to "see" your firearms. So, your brother couldn't turn them over to the police.

Second, I would make an immediate call to the Senior Management at UPS. First, I'd want to talk to their legal department. Then I would call the Company President's office and leave a detailed message about what had happened. And then the CEO's office. Believe me they would be interested.

Next, I would call the police. Make a report.

At this point your butt is somewhat covered.

I would think that something would happen pretty quickly. I would make sure your brother knows what is about to happen, just in case he pulling some crap on you. The police will probably want to talk to him. Hopefully by then your guns are at your friend's house under lock and key.

Or, you could have a lawyer do it for you. In any case, I would not mess around. Every minute you wait is another minute you could be in jeopardy.

When EVER I have damaged goods I either do not accept the shipment so UPS has to send it back. OR I file a claim and send the stuff back. You don't get to keep it.

I just get this picture in my mind of the UPS driver taking a rife back to his truck (assuming he had a truck) and driving around town with a rifle in the back. HAHAHA Then arriving at the terminal and carrying in a rifle to show to everyone.

Or most likely, take it home to show it off to his friends... Oh, boy.

[Trenchfoot]

[aeromech]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Really, I doubt there's one guy here reading this thread that believes all this would have happened and you never took pictures of the broken items. That's the first thing any reasonable person would do.

[Tommy C]

OP, your brother probably traded the rifle for hookers & blow & just trying to cover his ***. This story is too hinky to be true...

[Cereal Killer]

Every time I have ever returned something that I bought online it has been my responsibility to arrange shipment back to the seller, even if the seller provided a return shipping label. There is no way that UPS would show up at OP's door without first having been summoned by him....I notice that OP seems to have abandoned his own thread...